I'm sure Skull & Bones is a silly, snobbish
fraternity for rich, white guys only.
I'm also sure that Kerry probably grew
up, and I think he did in Vietnam, and is
embarrassed by his youthful involvement.
Why the fuck would he want to talk
about such an embarrassment on national
TV?
I don't like it when a guy says, "I need your vote and I have
secrets."
Bart, if you can listen to Kerry and Bush
speak, and compare their records, in life
and on the issues, and honestly think that
Kerry is owned by the BFEE, I gotta
think that 64 you brag about is a major
exaggeration.
Dan Leahy
Dan, would you concede that Kerry protected
Skull & Bones secrets last Sunday?
A secret "society" where the super-rich
conspire (by definition) to help their own?
What does this "help their own" perspective
cost the non-rich and the non-white?
Whatever secrets he protected are shared
with some of the world's most evil people.
Hey, if he's your senator and you trust
him because you know him well, that's cool.
But I don't know Kerry very well, and I
don't know the Skulls at all.
To me, this is more worrysome than the
1960 question - will Kennedy obey the Pope?
If Kerry has a brand on his ass, I want
to know who owns him.
Excerpt:
Bush has also been accused, by Professor
Bradford Lee, of the elite Naval War College in Newport, RI
of having participated in cruel, sadistic
and homoerotic faternity hazing practices back in college. According to
the professor, Bush chased him, spanked
him and made him bend over a desk with his pants down while he was
branded like a pig with a triangle-shaped
branding iron. He still has the scars, physical and emotional to this day.
This is the kinda stuff I'm talking about.
When Bush was asked about this, he said, "Aw,
shucks, ...silly college pranks..."
Excuse me, but that's first degree assault with a dealy weapon,
not to mention intent
to cause bodily harm and without a doube, depraved in difference
to the man's sore ass.
Thirty two years later, Professor Lee says his ass still burns
a little.
I realize this ia a "Yale fraternity" branding, so what method
did the Skulls use?
And why can't they talk about it?
The Skull & Bones Tomb
Excerpt:
The home of Skull and Bones on the Yale
campus is a stone building resembling a mausoleum, and known
as "the Tomb." Initiations take place on
Deer Island in the St. Lawrence River (an island owned by the
Russell Trust Association), with regular
reunions on Deer Island and at Yale. Initiation rites reportedly include
strenuous and traumatic activities of the
new member, while immersed naked in mud, and in a coffin.
More important is the "sexual autobiography":
The initiate tells the order all the sex secrets of his young life.
Weakened mental defenses against manipulation,
and the blackmail potential of such information, have
obvious permanent uses in enforcing loyalty
among members.
TheMemoryhole.com says this is from the video of the Skull & Bones initiation ritual
Subject: Kerry & S&B
You're right, in my opinion: they
need to at least be able
to give a better answer that "it's a secret."
This gov't already has waaayyyyy too many
secrets as it is.
And, the S&B-ers apparently become
some of the wealthiest,
most powerful people on the planet.
Subject: About Skull & Bones
Bart,
Skull & Bones is very important... because,
using your metaphors... the BFEE is just one branch of it.
It is not really a fraternity in the usual
college campus sense... it is actually an organization... rather like the
Mafia.
The book "Secrets of the Tomb" published
in 2002 is a fairly good introduction.
The purpose of S&B is simple:
to indentify and select rich young white guys to move them into positions
to take over and manage the world economy
and governments.
So why doesn't
that scare some people?
What secrets to Bush and Kerry share, and
why can't they talk about it?
Any person chosen for membership is guaranteed
an income for life
... even if they are unsuccessful in any
business ventures they engage in.
Yes... very much welfare for the rich.
It is about 98% Republican...
Their initiation rituals are very strange
indeed... tho I don't think the branding thing is part of it.
The standard greek college frat that Dubya
was in ( the "Dekes") is the one that routinely brands
the pledges' asses with a hot coathanger.
S&B is concerned with much bigger things.
Bax
Bax, why am I the only one who's worked up about BRANDING?
Branding means something.
It means "I own you," like
a pimp owns his whores.
That's why they branded cows and horses, to prove their ownership.
Don't we deserve a un-branded president?
Subject: Skull & Bones
Bart,
I, too, was shocked that Kerry was in Skull
& Bones, two years ahead of Bush, and wouldn't talk about it.
My wife was watching with me, and she now
considers Kerry a complete phony.
I think the time has come for a full public
exposure of the Skull & Bones Society.
Jim
Years ago, Howard Stern ran for governor of New York. Seems
like he got into the
20's with his approval rating, then he dropped out because (he
claimed) he would have to
disclose his wealth in filing papers and he'd no longer be "one
of us." (shudder)
Wouldn't it be strange if this Skulls question got bigger, and
Kerry was pressured into talking,
but he refused to talk and had to drop out of the race to protect
the secrets of the Skulls?.
Can a man serve two masters?
Subject: S and B
Read Anthony Sutton. Go to ctrl.org
and read the "Boodle Boys" essay.
There is WAY more here than meets the eye.
Take it from someone who has studied organizations
like this for thirty years.
Draw your own conclusions.
See how disproportionate the S & B number
of members are with the positions in government that they occupy.
Write me back if you want to know more.
BTW - it may interest you to find out
more about Pamela Harriman, Bill Clinton and the Russell Trust.
It is all smoke and mirrors.
Jack
Jack, the only conclusion I drew is that Kerry refuses to talk about this "society."
Subject: Skull & Bones
Bart,
You need only do a search on "skull &
Bones, George Bush and you will find plenty of material.
One report that I think is most interesting
is a report written in 1991 as a "white paper" for Japanese
readers by Paul Goldstein and Jeffrey Steinberg.
It is at: http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol10/articles/skullboneswp.html
Excerpt:
The reader will learn that President George
Herbert Walker Bush's concept of the New World Order
is an old idea, one which has its origins
in the philosophy and beliefs of the secret Skull & Bones fraternity.
Today in particular, this is the prevailing
outlook of the U.S. government, many of whose most influential
members, like the president himself, are
part of the Skull & Bones network.
These men seek to recreate the American
imperium of the immediate post-World War II period, an era
which President Bush frequently refers
to as "the American Century."
The powerful men of Skull & Bones genuinely
believe that they have a strategic and moral "right" to control
world affairs. Consequently, they
take upon themselves the authority to crush any rivalrous threat to U.S.
imperial leadership, whether by current
allies, such as Japan, Germany or Great Britain, or by Cold War
adversaries, like the Soviet Union.
The Skull & Bones members believe in
the idea of "constructive chaos". By keeping their true policy
intentions secret, by constantly sending
out mixed signals on all critical policy issues, they consciously
seek to sow confusion among both their
nominal "friends" and "enemies" alike.
This report is 37 pages long.
Enjoy,
Roger
Roger, the more I learn about these Skulls the less I like it.
Click Here to see the list
Subject: Kerry
The man took a solemn oath of secrecy. He's not going to break it. I respect that.
If Kerry's loyalties lie elsewhere, if he has "other priorities,"
I can accept that
But maybe running for president when he has other priorities
isn't a good thing.
We didn't have a right to know about Clinton
getting extra-marital blowjobs.
We don't have a right to know if Kerry
has a brand on his ass.
If Clinton let another man permanantly mark his ass to prove
he was someone else's property,
I would run away from him. Why would we vote for somebody's servant?
And if he's not
somebody's property, why did he accept the branding?
He''s an outspoken anti-war hero who keeps
his promises. Good enough for me.
By the way, it's my firm opinion that Kerry
is our best bet, second only maybe to Wesley Clark.
We need someone with foreign policy and
military experience.
BFEE has everyone so terrified, it's all
they thiink about.
This country will not elect a non-veteran
Democrat this time around.
You can take that to the bank.
Love you Bart.
I seem to be the only one concerned about this, so I'll take a
death breath
and consider the possibility that I'm missing something big here.
From: Bart
I've gotten some shocking mail from people who were "hazed" at Yale.
A common thread seems to be to put the newbie in a homosexual
situation and then asking him
to "prove his loyalty" to the others. Many involved a "pants
off" situation, and a few of these involved
the outright blowing a guy, just for a second, but certainly
long enough to take a photograph that could
be used against the guy in the future.
Not that being gay is the end-all of all bad situations, but with
this crowd, it is. I assume that's why they're
asked to do it, proving they'd go to *that* extent to prove their
loyalty, thus insuring compliance for life.
Branding and a very short blow job for youir buddy?
That's not my idea of leading - that sounds like some zombie
slave to me.
Subject: I agree about Kerry
Mr. Bart,
I also watched Kerry on (shudder) Tim-the-'ho-bag
Russert, because I was considering supporting Kerry.
But I had the exact same reaction. This
business of secret societies is corrupt! Under a system of representative
governance, the legitimacy of power is
solely derived from the people, in this case the American people.
Kerry, by admitting his allegiance to a
secret society, just public admitted that "yes, I feel you alls pain,
and I MIGHT represent you," but on the
other hand "I owe this secret obligation to these secret people
and I can't tell you anything about it
because it's a secret."
If Skull and Bones is a joke, then why its affinity for power and secrecy?
C. Pinko
Subject: Skull and Bones
There are bound to be a lot of Kerry fans
reading your page, but screw em.
I could look past Kerry being in S&B
way back in his past if it was way back
in his past, but its not. Right now,
here today, Kerry won't tell us about it.
I think we have all had enough of the current
secretive White House.
Let's elect someone who will be straight
with us.
brew
Subject: Skull and Bones
Dear Bartcop, I’m not even an American,
but given that your country’s Chief Executive Officer
has decided to augment the steady pressure
of economic imperialism with blatant military aggression,
I think all citizens of the world need
to know who his masters are.
And if his masters hold any sway over Kerry
then we don’t want any part of him.
I’m pretty sure this Skull and Bones thing
is some pathetic sophomoric old boys club,
but if that is the case, as you’ve stated,
why can’t Kerry just say so.
Given the connection to Bush, I think Kerry should come clean.
A Concerned Canadian
Subject: Skull and Bones
Hey Bart,
Keep up the good fight...
It seems to me the whole point of the Skull
and Bones is blackmail...once you're in -you're in.
Step out of line and the pictures will
be used against you. etc , etc...
Do we still live in a free society?
True patriots: the good fight draws closer
to home.
B Funk,
NJ
Subject: Skull and Bones
From my understanding ( I may be wrong,
but I'd rather be safe than sorry ) when
a member gives allegiance to the S&B,
it overrides any loyalty to family, country
and most probably to the U.S.Constitution.
Other members past and present, beside G.W.
and Kerry, include George H.W.Bush,
grandpa Prescott S.Bush, William F. Buckley,Jr.
and countless others.
In my opinion, if it's "secret", then there's
something to hide.
It leaves a bad taste in my mouth so I
won't be voting for Kerry.
Hopefully, I won't need to...too bad though.
Regards,
Angela
Subject: Kerry and Skull and Crossbones
Hi, Bartcop!
As in other instances, such as your ceaseless
and unwarranted attacks on the Democratic Party,
your Tiger Woods hex, and your gun waving,
you are on shaky ground with your insistence that
Kerry come clean on Skull and Crossbones.
Cool!
It sounds like you're about to kick my ass!
I'm looking forward to it - let's get at it...
If you're looking for any sort of flimsy
excuse not to vote for a Democrat, as I believe you are here,
you don't even have to know what being
a member of S&B involves. Merely to be a member of
a fraternity or any secret society is evidence
of a large character flaw in itself.
So you agree with me?
What the hell is wrong with you?
You attack the position of the guy your agree with?
BTW, sad as it is, I plan to vote straight Demo, as I have since
1972.
Such salutes to the stupid and the inane
are something that you often see in young people.
If that were not so, it wouldn't be nearly
as easy to march them off to kill or be killed in
that endlessly ridiculous and obscene human
activity called war.
Kerry is hardly a young person.
He protected his precious Skull and bones last Sunday.
This is so disappointing - I thought you were going to make a
charge at me...
Meanwhile, if I'm not mistaken, there have
been several U.S. Presidents who were members
of the Masons, yet no one insisted on them
revealing those dumb rituals either.
Sorry, my Wabac Machine needs a new power supply, so I can't go
back in time
and correct the mistakes made prior to my birth.
And isn't Kerry actually protecting you
from knowing something whose fatuousness
could damage your brain cells?
Non-sequitor.
Do you have a nanny or an older sister who could translate?
Clinton tried to do the same, to the point
of endangering himself with accusations of perjury,
but the media and the Repubs kept pushing
and pushing, and when it eventually all came out,
were any of us any better off for knowing
the details of what was actually a brief and extremely
private encounter, having absolutely nothing
to do with the economy, the environment, foreign policy, etc.?
Not at all!
SofarSogoo!
So, you think swearing alliegiance to a hidden agenda is the same
as a blow job?
Well, in this particular case you may be right, but if John Kerry
committed a brief but damning
indescretion when he was young, I don't need the details. I just
want to hear him say his first
allegiance is to the Constitution, not to the owner of the brand
that possibly marks his ass.
Wait - that's it?
That's all the attack you have today?