1130trans

     Note: I have "fiddled" with the transcript a little bit.
     In these debates, time is more of a factor than spelling, so sometimes put becomes "out"
     and for some reason, I tend to type "Clitnon" when I'm going really fast.
     I didn't change anything that counted, I didn't delete anything.
     An "honest" version is available right now on the Forum.
     That's where I got this original. - bc

The Great Debate #1 Transcript
November 30 2000 at 10:00 PM

genslab:
that should do it

genslab:
goofy can post

bartcop:
clearing my throat

genslab:
right goofy?

GoofyforW:
Jello.

bartcop:
Goofy, you there?

GoofyforW:
Jesss

bartcop:
Ok, you were talking real big, let's have it

bartcop:
You got a problem with Clinton?

bartcop:
Chili peppers on VH1

     GoofyforW:
     Yes, I think he's one of the most amoral men (typical of 60's selfserving libs)
     who ever served in public life.

bartcop:
Compared to who?

bartcop:
Do me a favor, don't repeat anything Rush said unless you know what it means, OK?

     GoofyforW:
     Bite me. Don't assume that things I say that you happened to hear on Rush's show
     came from him, and not from me to him.

GoofyforW:
He dropped his pants in an office that Ronald Reagan wouldn't even take off his coat in.

bartcop:
Goofy, that's horseshit!

bartcop:
Reagan sold weapons to Iran from the Oval office, where was the respect then?

bartcop:
What Clinton did was human, what Reagan did was a fucking crime

bartcop:
Reagan's crimes were so horrific, Bush had to pardon every mother-effer who knew

GoofyforW:
Your spelling gets bad when you get agitated.

bartcop:
I should type slower, you should type faster

GoofyforW:
Let's limit the topic. Clinton or Gore?

GoofyforW:
Ron or W?

GoofyforW:
Beatles or Stones?

bartcop:
You attacked Clinton, lets stay there for a minute

bartcop:
BC is the best president we've ever had

bartcop:
That ditto-monkey congress got into his pants

bartcop:
Yes, it was ugly, but we've never been in another man's pants before

GoofyforW:
Maybe if you're only 12 years old, 'cause W's old man didn't perform that well in my opinion.

bartcop:
Hey, stay on your side

bartcop:
The topic is BC's "crimes' compared to RR/Bush REAL crimes

GoofyforW:
But the amoral, "win at any costs" machinations are a terrible lesson for the youth of today.

bartcop:
Horseshit, compared to who? Compared to what?

     GoofyforW:
     I don't think crimes are the worst thing that can happen, based on the last five or six presidents.
     How about the example for the people?

GoofyforW:
Sexual harrassment of an employee? Even consensual - nice legacy.

GoofyforW:
Oh Chelsea, you know that nice girl you met in my office the other day? I'm banging her.

     bartcop:
     Clinton hid his "crimes." The GOP exposed them to the people,
     it was the GOP that made oral sex dinner conversation, not Clinton

GoofyforW:
OK, so the fact that it happened is unimportant. Just that he was discovered and it was made known.

GoofyforW:
Do as I say, not as I do?

bartcop:
What the hell are you talking about?

bartcop:
When did BC say he was more moral than others on sex?

bartcop:
YOUR side impeached him while they were fucking their secretaries

     GoofyforW:
     The FACT that he was diddling a 21 year old intern isn't wrong,
     but for the Republicans to make an issue of it is?

bartcop:
YOU BET YOUR ASS

GoofyforW:
Hey, I want my president to be WAY MORE MORAL than me or you or the milkman.

bartcop:
Clinton's cock is not our concern

bartcop:
Why didn't the GOP address America's problems instead of Clinton's cock?

bartcop:
The GOP went cock-hungry crazy

     GoofyforW:
     His parts aren't, that he freely shares them with others (apparently discretion isn't one of his strong
     points) IS!

bartcop:
Clinton was so goddamn discrete, it took threats of DYING IN PRISON to get the truth

     GoofyforW:
     How do we know that Monica isn't an agent, who planted a chip in his chad? You've heard of hookers
     that can put a condom on a John and they don't even know it? LOL

bartcop:
You're avoiding the question

GoofyforW:
Dying in prison. You should be on a daytime soap opera, very melodramatic!

     bartcop:
     YOUR side was impeachment, all BC ever wanted to do was run the country
     and he did a fucking great job

bartcop:
He did it WHILE fighting Saddam AND impeachment

     GoofyforW:
     He did a great job because the Republicans tied up all his truly horseshit legislation - Nationalized
     Healthcare.

bartcop:
Your guilty GOP scumbags impeached him with troops in the field

     GoofyforW:
     Fighting Saddam. Blew up some poor ragtop night watchman because Saddam made plans to take out
     W's old man.

bartcop:
Clinton fixed every problem EXCEPT health care

GoofyforW:
Fixed every problem. Like reforming welfare?

GoofyforW:
Troops in the field. BC couldn't even tell you how many and where they are.

bartcop:
Oh, please, you're going to argue Clinton's competence with that moron Bush coming in?

bartcop:
BC is an encyclopedia

GoofyforW:
That moron Bush will have capable military men in place, that respect him and serve him well

bartcop:
Smirk is a comic book with pages missing

GoofyforW:
An encyclopedia of slang and ways to blame others

GoofyforW:
Good line though!

bartcop:
BC fixed welfare, what's your problem with that?

bartcop:
When did BC attack anybody who didn't attack him first?

GoofyforW:
BC fixed welfare over his own dead body. It was a Republican plan, vetoed at least once.

bartcop:
Your first 3 words say I'm right

GoofyforW:
Most really positive things that have happened since '94 are from the Contract with America.

GoofyforW:
I believe it's 9/10 passed into law?

bartcop:
The only good thing the GOP did since 95 was increase the speed limit

     GoofyforW:
     You can't claim credit for something that you actively fought, then signed because there was no way
     to avoid it.

bartcop:
I forget, what was the tenth one?

GoofyforW:
Outlawing liberals?

GoofyforW:
I forget.

bartcop:
I'm slowing down so we get on the same page

GoofyforW:
You type faster than I think...

GoofyforW:
Maybe it's the W in my name...

ha ha

bartcop:
If BC signed something, he did it for a reason, not because your losers forced him

GoofyforW:
Clinton is not a good American. He's a great politician.

GoofyforW:
You're simply wrong. Next subject?

bartcop:
That looks like a white flag, what subject you want next?

     GoofyforW:
     He has no respect for the Constitution or anything that has made this counry great.
     He craves power and enslaving people through welfare.

bartcop:
You say these wild blanket statements with no foundation

bartcop:
I can make wild accusations, too, but they'd have no meaning

bartcop:
Clinton never needed a pardon like RR and Bush

bartcop:
What makes you think the Pardon gang respected the goddamn constitution?

GoofyforW:
Your whole life and website is about wild accusations with no meaning.

bartcop:
Show me

GoofyforW:
I didn't mean your life - I don't know anything about your life. Unfair personal attack.

bartcop:
What have I ever said that I can't back up?

GoofyforW:
Please, you're easily as pompous as the man you profess to hate.

bartcop:
Goofy, my bombast is a gag, unlike your hero the gasbag

GoofyforW:
clintonscockclintonscock

bartcop:
Seems like whenever I use the word "pardon" you change the subject

GoofyforW:
Explain your "pardon" reference?

bartcop:
You DO know about the pardons of 1992, right?

bartcop:
What are the odds?

bartcop:
I can't find anybody to debate that knows about the biggest goddamn crimes since Watergate

GoofyforW:
BC, you're my hero. I spend more time reading you than listening to him.

bartcop:
Crimes that were so huge, Bush threw the election to hide them

GoofyforW:
Those crimes that you find SO horrible aren't terribly offensive to me, sorry.

bartcop:
Put your mouthpiece back in and answer the question

GoofyforW:
Watergate, a huge crime? It was a breakin.

bartcop:
You have stepped in the DEEP shit now

bartcop:
BC's blowjobs were a real crimes, but arming BIG TERROR is OK with you?

GoofyforW:
I can see your temples throbbing.

GoofyforW:
No, lying under oath in a federal court - regardless of the subject, is bad...

     bartcop:
     Arming them, then stonewalling, then committing perjury, then pardoning the whole gang
     when the coverup falls apart, and you're pissed at Clinton?

GoofyforW:
Hey, name somebody we HAVEN'T armed in the 20th century?

bartcop:
Yes or no, are you familiar with the Bush pardons?

GoofyforW:
Please, a non-issue.

bartcop:
Yes or no, are you familiar with the Bush pardons?

GoofyforW:
Yes, familiar. Not important.

GoofyforW:
Sorry, we're passionate about different things.

bartcop:
If you say the biggest crimes of the last 20 years are a non-issue, this debate is over

     GoofyforW:
     YOU say they're the biggest crimes, I disagree.
     Since this is your forum, you have every right to end it.

bartcop:
You see a door, so you're going to run instead of facing the music?

GoofyforW:
This is your channel, like Rush has his own.

bartcop:
Unlike Rush, I give the opponent a voice

bartcop:
gens, open her up

GoofyforW:
Have you ever called his show? I haven't ever gotten through

bartcop:
I need opponents in my same weight class

bartcop:
Somebody get Goofy a cut man, he's bleeding

genslab:
[Gens inserted a picture of an atomic bomb exploding here]

     GoofyforW:
     My reaction to this is predictable. The typical liberal debates things that favor
     his/her strong suit, and not much of substance. You're a flyweight.

bartcop:
The transcript might disagree with you, Goof

bartcop:
Gens open the door

ElTomas:
*clapclapclap* Kudos to both. But a clear KO by Bartcop.

GoofyforW:
But thanks for the dance.

RussBLib(<-well armed liberal...you've been warned):
Iran-Contra was not important? I guess the cocaine smuggling was no big deal either

genslab:
ok "issues folks can post now...

RussBLib(<-well armed liberal...you've been warned):
and the death squads they funded..

Dr_Tobor(Bush Gives Boils A Bad Name):
yawn

GoofyforW:
Thanks gens