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 Dueling Quotes

"The Republicans are coming to town. Make nice."
   --Ed Koch, former Dem turned Bush whore, asking New Yorkers to treat them with kindness,   Attribution
 

"If you see a Republican, give 'em a piece of your mind. They want us to hold our tongues.
  It's a physical impossibility."
   --Sean Wilentz, a Princeton history professor, reacting to the 'Make Nice' campaign Attribution
 

 Anyone know why Koch turned whore?

 Giuliani scolds 9-11 panel
  Tells panel this is no time to play the blame game
  Translation: Clinton's not involved, so forget the investigations and just move on

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 One day after his police and fire chiefs were grilled over their Sept. 11 response, Giuliani
 told the 9-11 panel that their priority should be preventing a new attack, not assigning blame.

"Our enemy is not each other, but the terrorists who attacked us," Giuliani said. He acknowledged
 there were "terrible mistakes" made on Sept. 11, but attributed that to the unprecedented circumstances.
 

 I don't really know enough about this to get deep into it, but this is the standard GOP excuse.
"If we had know that Saudi hijackers were going to crash 2 planes into the WTC
  the morning of 9-11, we would have done everything possible to prevent it."

 That sounds all well and good, but did they not have ANY disaster response ready?

 Why couldn't the firemen talk to the cops?
 Why couldn't the cops talk to the emergency operators?
 Why couldn't the emergency operators talk to the firemen?

 Maybe if Bush had shared with the nation that a big attack was coming, the NYPD and FDNY
 could have taken a closer look at their incompatable radio situation and taken steps to correct it.
 BUT, that might've interfered with Bush's monthlong vacation.

 Isn't this the same problem we have on a federal level?
 The CIA won't talk to the FBI and vice versa?
 That macho, "we don't share" crap cost how many lives in 2001?

 As far as I know, the same problems exist - nothing has changed.
 Another failure of leadership from America's worst president ever.
 

  Care to comment?

 Quotes

"The two times I think I have been most humiliated in my life was standing
  in a big room, naked as a jaybird with about fifty others and they were checking
  us out, now that was humiliating. It was humiliating showering with sixty others
  in a public shower. It didn't kill us did it? No one ever died from humiliation."
    --Zell Miller, (D-Traitor) comparing showering in a gym with being sodomized,
       and videotaped while forced to masturbate by an occupying army,  Attribution
 

 All these Bush supporters saying the abuse was no big deal?
 The only way to prove that is for them to say, "Get a camera and do to me
 what the pictures show we did to them and I'll prove that it was no big deal."

 But there's not one Republican who would agree to that, is there?
 Anyone who says, "This was no big deal," who doesn't agree to be taped naked
 with a military dog is just bluffing and when you call them on it - they fold.

 Subject: Rape and torture is wrong

 The Pentagon has shown lawmakers the remaining photos of prisoner abuse. These new photos
 are so graphic that senators concluded that releasing the photos would put our troops in danger.
 They stated that even to fully describe everything would offend the sensibilities of any rational person.

 Of what they could describe they stated that saw the raping of prisoners - both heterosexual and
 homosexual rape. Other pictures depicted "crewel and sadistic torture" and obscenities with corpses.
"I don't know how the hell these people got into our army," said Colorado Republican Sen. Ben Nighthorse
 Campbell after viewing what he called a fraction of the images. We can only imaging what they can't describe.

 I want to say for the record that rape and torture is wrong and that there is absolutely no way to justify this.
 We can not ignore this and try to cover it up. We need to get to the bottom of this no matter how high up
 the ladder this goes. This is about who we are as a country and we can not allow ourselves to be defined this way.
 The absolute worse thing that can happen is that we allow people to get away with this. We need to make it
 absolutely clear to the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Military, and the people of the world that it is
 never OK to do this and those who are doing this will be punished. America will be judged by our integrity
 and we must show the world that we are an honest people and can be trusted.

 Marc Perkel
 San Francisco, CA.

 Text of e-mails from U.S. consular officer in Baghdad to Berg family

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 April 1, 1:26 a.m. (To Michael Berg, Berg's father)

 I have confirmed that your son, Nick, is being detained by the U.S. military in Mosul.
 He is safe.
 He was picked up approximately one week ago.
 We will try to obtain additional information regarding his detention and a contact person
 you can communicate with directly.
 

 So how did Berg go from being in military custody into the hands of al-Zarqawi?

  Care to comment?

 Subject: Advertising on Air America Radio

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 I'm sure there are four (or five, not including you) other Patriots out there who would do the same.

 Then we could let all the wonderful readers pick our "Five" favorite sites to go in the ad,
 along with the hammer of all sites, bartcop.

 I say hit with the best, get the word out, make it happen!
 I'm in...who's with me?

 Helldog

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 so Helldog and the sponsotrs can match it - but it doesn't work that way.
 We have to raise over $5,000 for this to work, and we can't get there $47.50 at a time.
 Well, we could, but then we'd have over a hundred websites to mention.

 The deal is:
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 but we can only do this on a first-come, first served basis.

 Quotes

"There's definitely a cover-up. People are either telling themselves or being told to be quiet.
  What I was surprised at was the silence. The collective silence by so many people that had
  to be involved, that had to have seen something or heard something. I feel like I'm being
  punished for being honest. You know, it was almost as if I actually felt if all my statements
  were shredded and I said, like most everybody else, 'I didn't hear anything, I didn't see anything.
  I don't know what you're talking about,' then my life would be just fine right now."
     --Sgt. Samuel Provance, who was at Abu Ghraib, talking to ABC despite orders not to talk,  Attribution

 Reuters, NBC Staff Abused by U.S. Troops in Iraq

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 U.S. forces beat three Iraqis working for Reuters and subjected them to sexual and
 religious taunts and humiliation during their detention in a military camp, the three said Tuesday.

 Two of the three Reuters staff said they had been forced to insert a finger into their anus and
 then lick it, and were forced to put shoes in their mouths, particularly humiliating in Arab culture.

 All three said they were forced to make demeaning gestures as soldiers laughed, taunted them
 and took photographs. They said they did not want to give details publicly earlier because of the
 degrading nature of the abuse.
 

 This is the "superb" job Rumsfeld is doing?

 In any other administration - heads would roll over charges like this.
 But in the "We don't make mistakes" administration, they'll just blame the grunts.
 This is not standing by the troops.  This is hanging them out to dry.
 
 

  Care to comment?

 Average price of gas goes above $2
  The oil men in the White House are doing this to us

  Click  Here
 

 Morning-After Pill to Be Offered in Canada
  They're not religiously insane like America

  Click  Here
 

 Kerry-Nader Meeting Unlikely to Alter Race
  Kerry should offer him a position as Secretary of Meddling

  Click  Here
 

 Ex-troops could be forced to go to Iraq
  Sounds like an episode of NBC's "Las Vegas"

  Click  Here
 

 Protester Throws Purple Powder at Tony Blair
  'Barney Powder' considered sacred in Great Britain

  Click  Here

 Bush's Movements and Actions on 9/11
  A timeline of Bush's illogical moves on America's worst day

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 Bush's actions on 9- 11 have been the subject of lively debate, mostly on the internet. Details reported
 that day and in the week after the attacks - both the media reports and accounts given by Bush himself
 - have changed radically over the past 18 months. Culling hundreds of reports from newspapers, magazines,
 and the internet has only made finding the "truth" of what happened and when it happened more confusing.
 In the changed political climate after 9/11, few have dared raise challenging questions about Bush's actions.
 A journalist who said Bush was "flying around the country like a scared child, seeking refuge in his mother's
 bed after having a nightmare" and another who said Bush "skedaddled" were fired. Click  Here
 We should have a concise record of where President Bush was throughout that day, but we do not.

 and

 Unfortunately, Bush has never been asked - not even once - to explain these statements. His memory not only
 contradicts every single media report, it also contradicts what he said that evening. In his speech to the nation that
 evening, Bush said: "Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans."
 It's not known what these emergency plans were, because neither Bush nor anyone in his administration mentioned
 this immediate response again. Implementing "emergency response plans" seems to completely contradict Bush's
"by the way" recollection of a small airplane accident..
 

 This is an extremely detailed account with perhaps a hundred links to verify accuracy.
 They've told one lie after another and the press refuses to ask them to explain.
 I wish I had time to go thru all of it - maybe somebody else would like to and file a report?

  Care to comment?

 Tulsa Boy Makes Good
  Born in 1920, Tony Randall was drawn to roadshows that came through Tulsa

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 Randall joked in September about how he envisioned his funeral: Bush and Cheney would show up
 to pay their respects, but they'd be turned away because his family knows he didn't like them.

 Quotes

"A month ago on April 18th, George Bush led by five points in the polls. Now, $70 million in
  misleading ads later, John Kerry is up by five points, 51 percent to 46 percent. Even more
  amazing is that polling among swing state voters shows John Kerry leading there as well.
  George Bush's approval rating is at an all time low of 46 percent, and 58 percent of
  Americans disapprove of George Bush's handling of Iraq.
      -- DNC fund raising letter,
 

 I would like to see you guys fight like you're 15 points behind.
 I remember the last days of the 1992 Clinton campaign. His staff told him he already had the race won,
 but Clinton kept working 18 hour days, campaining in six states per day sometimes, like he was still behind.
 I assume he's helping you guys behind the scenes, and that makes me feel a little better.
 Thank Koresh you didn't reject his help like Gore did.

 US enemies are calling its bluff
  Bush's failed policy has become a bugger's muddle

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
"Washington will still argue that the overwhelming majority - the silent majority - of Iraqis are
  not only better off now than under Saddam but that they don't want the Americans to leave.
  But it doesn't matter what the silent majority wants if they cannot speak for fear of getting murdered.

 The inability from day one of the occupation to provide security for the vast bulk of Iraqi civilians
 has emerged as perhaps the central failure of the US occupation. This dates from pre-war planning
 and arises directly out of US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's military theories - that modern
 warfare doesn't require soldiers, that it can all be done with hi-tech gadgetry.  The US is now staring
 colossal failure in the face. The occupation has been a complete bugger's muddle of bureaucratic infighting,
 confused objectives and incompetent implementation."
 

 The whole world (minus Tony Blair) begged us not to attack Iraq, they begged us not to invade,
 but the arrogance and the unlimited greed of the BFEE resulted in this:

..
 "Screw you - we'll go it alone."

 And then there was this classic from Bunnypanyts:
"Since it's our soldiers doing all the dying, America gets all the profits from the war."

 No, "America" didn't get anything but higher gas prices.
 Those hundreds of billions are going directly to the Bush Family Evil Empire and their gang of thugs.

 Oh yeah, we got all the dead, too.

..
 

  Care to comment?

 Atrocities in Iraq: 'I killed innocent people for our government'

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 Q: Who gave the order to wipe the demonstrators out?

 A: Higher command. We were told to be on the lookout for the civilians because a lot of the
 Fedayeen and the Republican Guards had tossed away uniforms and put on civilian clothes
 and were mounting terrorist attacks on American soldiers. The intelligence reports that were
 given to us were basically known by every member of the chain of command. The order to
 shoot the demonstrators, I believe, came from senior government officials, including intelligence
 communities within the military and the U.S. government.
 

 This is one reason so many of our soldiers are going to come back screwed up:
 They were given order to fire on cars and trucks leaving Baghdad (after we dropped leaflets
 telling them all they had to do was surrender) and then there's this chilling exchange:

 Q: The reports said the cars were loaded with explosives.
      In all the incidents did you find that to be the case?

 A: Never. Not once. There were no secondary explosions.
 

  Care to comment?

 Subject: BCR Show 38

 I loved it! Your bit with Jeopardy was very funny.  I really like Bartcop Radio.
 I wish that Air America Radio allowed guest commentaries featuring our greatest
 liberal bloggers, I would nominate you to do a spot daily. You know a minute or two
 giving your opinion of the issues of the day. That would be sweet

 Keep up the excellent work
 Art & Anita
 
 

 Subject: BCR Show 38

 Hey Bart,

 Best yet! Hands down!  After the call-in piece you did in 38-4
 (excellent, do more of these. Great calls!), the cut to California Dreamin' was perrrfect!
 My compliments to the chef.  (Tommy Mack)  Funny shit man - really had me rockin'.
 Jim

 Subject: feedback Show 38

 If I wrote to you about my ripped tendons and my bike crashes would you read the whole account?
 Nope.

 Dude old people sit around and talk about surgery.
 Yeah, I know your old and all but if I wanted to hear about surgery I'd go out and get some.
 Thank you no.
 I thought you said you didn't want sympathy?
 So dont waste 68 seconds of my life whining about your damn knee unless theres something funny in it, which there isn't.

 John
 

 John, if surgery was going to make you miss a few days of work,
 would you tell your boss or just not show up?

 I work for the subscribers, and if the page/BCR both have to go dark while
 I recover from surgery, you think it's a bad idea for me to mention it to my boss?

  Quote

"I have sadly come to the conclusion that President Bush is merely a frontman, an empty suit, who is
  manipulated by the people in his administration. Bush has the most dangerously simplistic view of the
  world of any president in my memory. It's no wonder the president avoids press conferences like the plague.
 Take away his cue cards and he can barely talk. Americans should be embarrassed that Abdullah of Jordan
 spoke more fluently and articulately in English than our own president at their joint press conference recently.
 I will swallow a lot of petty policy differences with Kerry to get a man in the White House with brains enough
 not to blow up the world and us with it."
    --Charley Reese, finally figuring out what we knew over four years ago, Attribution
 

 Hey Charlie, read  bartcop.com  - it'll make you smarter and take years off your learning curve.

"Stand Back and Let Bush Hang Himself"
   by Josh Marshall

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
"The most salient fact about the contemporary American political landscape is its profound political polarization.
 And that is almost the last thing the president has going for him. There are forty-plus percent of the electorate
 on both sides that will stick with their candidate, and fight for him, simply because he opposes the other side.
 I think that that's one of the few things keeping the president's approval ratings as high as they are.

 Further injecting partisan political sensibilities into this current moment will, I think, steady the president and
 perhaps even help him in his current state...for now it's salutary for the Democrats to have President Bush
 the focus -- near exclusively -- of attention. There is, I think, a coalescing sense that President Bush is a
 failed president -- that key and grave decisions he has made have been the wrong ones and that his leadership
 and management have been deeply flawed on many fronts."
 

 Hmmmm.... this sounds like the "No hammer" strategy.
 But as bad as Bush is screwing everything up, there might be something to this.
 The decisions Kerry makes from now till November will determine history.

 Subject: BC, there's no need to bend the truth...

 Bart, you wrote:

> "Alison, right after 9-11 we had a mini-war on these pages.
>   The doves said, "If we retaliate, they'll just hate us more."

 That's bullshit! I don't remember *anyone* saying that.
 

 Dude, you broke the rule.
 You don't bet on what you don't remember seeing.  You bet on what you saw for sure.
 You can't make that kind of wager and win - you're taking an unacceptable risk.
 When  you call a guy out into the street for a gunfight, it's usually a good idea to be
 standing on solid ground, such as, "Is this guy a faster draw than me?"
 

 As I recall it, you were talking about "glassing" Afghanistan, and a number of us talked about
 a majority of the population being completely innocent of anything having to do with terrorism,
 and that it was immoral to "glass" all of them to get a few terrorists.

 It's true, for a few hours or days, I was in the "glass them all" mode.
 The back pages are all there, I didn't go back and change anything.
 9-11 happened in Volume 581 - New York Disaster.
 I backed off that "glass them all" and changed it to "glass Al Qaeda."
 

 Mind you, no one (that I saw) ever said that we shouldn't retaliate, just that punishment
 should be meted out to those who deserved it, not to everyone who happened to be around them.

 A ha!
 You have seen the error of your ways and have decided to backpedal your accusation and redefine
 your perimieters to what you recall seeing. It looks like I'm not the only one who's guilty of speaking
 without thinking.  My excuse was the worst day in US history - what's yours?
 

 Look BC, I'm with you on just about everything but.... there's no reason to
 mischaracterize things that were said in order to make your point today.
 That's the kind of crap that Republicans do, don't fall to THAT level!

 Klieforth
 

 What if I spend four minutes searching the back issues and find such a quote?
 Will you accuse me of planting it there, "because that's the kind of crap Republicans do?"

 When you stand up and say, "Dude, you just told a lie," you are betting your credibility.
 In this case there was no need to bet your credibility unless you had taken the time to scour
 each of the post 9-11 pages to be certain your accusation was solid enough to launch.

 If we were playing poker, I'd be shoving all my chips into the pot about now.
 "I was saddened to read that your e-mail is running heavily against retaliation for the unspeakable atrocities of Tuesday morning."
 ...any chance you live near Chicago?

 Quotes

"Moore's film premiered Monday at the Cannes Film Festival to a series of near-riot scenes,
  as overbooked screenings were besieged by mobs trying to push their way in. The response at
  the early morning screening I attended was loudly enthusiastic. And at the official black-tie
  screening, it was greeted by a standing ovation; a friend who was there said it went on "for at
  least 25 minutes," which probably means closer to 15 (estimates of ovations at Cannes are like
  estimates of parade crowds in Chicago)."
   --Roger Ebert, on "Fahrenheit 9/11" Attribution
 

 Someday, we'll be big enough that they'll send a DVD for us to review.
 I want to see this film now, not later.

 I had a fella unsubscribe today.

 Usually when people unsubscribe, they say they just don't have
 an extra $5 or $10 to spare because they were laid off or whatever.

 Also, it's not unusual when someone unsubscribes, we probably average
 one a day except when I take an unpopular stand, then it goes up considerably.

 But this guy said he was outta here because Bush was "toast, the battle was won,"
 and there was no reason to continue fighting "after the results were already in."

 No offense to the unsubscriber, (he probably won't read this, anyway) but that's the kind
 of talk that will give the BFEE another 4, 8 or endless years as our merciless overlords.

 The time to stop fighting is after Kerry moves into the White House, because he could
 win and then we could suffer another 9-11 on Bush's watch in December and Bush may
 decide that, to save America, "power cannot be transfered at this time."

 So let's keep fighting - and fighting hard - until January 21st.

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 Prison Abuse Scandal Goes Right to the Top
   by Joe Conason

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 ...the men and women absorbing the brunt of George W. Bush's foolish decision to
 invade Iraq are likely to agree on at least one principle: Those at the top must be held
 responsible for the abuses along with those at the bottom.

 As long ago as Jan. 25, 2002, White House counsel Alberto Gonzales advised the President
 that the "new paradigm" created by the war on terrorism "renders obsolete Geneva's strict
 limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its provisions."

 The latest revelations by Seymour Hersh in The New Yorker suggest that those attitudes
 shaped secret intelligence operations at prison camps in Iraq. The crimes at Abu Ghraib
 were not necessarily isolated incidents that occurred outside the chain of command.
 

  Care to comment?

 VCR Alert

 West Wing finale,
 Lenny says goodbye to regular Law & Order,
 World Poker Tour goes to the "Caribbean Poker Adventure"
 Larry King Live has that thunderbolt of excitement - Tom Ridge
..
       "He's da best!"

 Plus, did anybody understand that last episode of The Sopranos?
 Tony had a dream where all the dead people (plus Artie???) came back
 to tell him, "You know what you gotta do - don't screw it up."

 It was like doing shots of Grey Goose with David Lynch.
 It had everything but the backwards-talking midget.

  Yes, bart - I have a clue

 Subject: Survivor clip on Show 38

 It doesn't hurt Rob that Amber is cute and just won $1 million.
 For a million bucks, I might propose to someone who looked like walking death.

 Jeff
 Bloomington IN

 P.S. Did Tommy do some strange edits on this show?
 It seemed like you got cut off in mid-word on a couple of parts.
 

 No, that was my sloppy editing, and I'm glad you asked that question.
 Lots of time when I talk, I change horses in mid-sentence, All this time
 I've been going back and meticulously editing out whatever blubs I can.

 For Show 39, we're going to try an experiment and do it "free style."
 Show 39 will have lots of mistakes and false starts and stuff because it'll be more real.

 Why are we doing this?  As the weeks go by, I'm getting better at not screwing up
 and it's the editing that slows things down. Maybe I should wait until Show 50 or 60
 to make this move, but as the French say, "Tempus Fugit," so we gotta accelerate,
 but you subscribers will be the ultimate judge.

 This should greatly increase BCR output, so it's worth a try.
 If people can't stand the free style, we can always go back to the meticulous editing,
 but I think a few mistakes is worth more content and you might even think it's funny
 that Monkeyboy Bart needed three takes to say, "Welcome to today's show."

 Quotes

"The roots of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal lie not in the criminal inclinations of a few Army
  reservists but in a decision, approved last year by Rumsfeld, to expand a highly secret operation,
  which had been focussed on the hunt for Al Qaeda, to the interrogation of prisoners in Iraq."
     --Seymour Hersh, who is responsible for breaking this story   Attribution
 

 I wish people would stop looking for a way to link Bush and Rummy to this mess and remember
 that Bush announced to the whole world that we weren't going to play by the rules years ago.

 Subject: Don't sweat the numbers

 It doesn't matter how low Junior's numbers get.

 If it looks like he can't win (and if his daddy's friends can't steal the next one
 like they stole the last one), then THERE MAY NOT BE AN ELECTION.

 There might be some stagering, unprecedented "national emergency" that's so horrifying,
 so catasthrophic, so effing scary that the election will be "postponed" for the duration of
 the emergency...to maintain continuity of command and control over the military.

 M
 

 M, I agree that's entirely possible.
 I feel certain they will not hand over power to Kerry under any conditions.
 Under normal circumstances I'd be willing to place a large bet on that, but I'd get
 no satisfaction from making a profit on the further loss of democracy in America.

 I see four possible scenarios:
 1. Bush legitimately wins the minds of the voters. If polls show him ahead and he wins, then we accept the loss.
 2. Bush has Diebold wire the machines to where the GOP wins no matter how the real vote count ends up.
 3. A mega-terrorist attack that "forces" Bush to cancel the election. Remember, AL Qaeda struck Spain two days
     before the election. If they hit us on that Sunday, that would give Bush half an excuse to cancel the election
     depending on the size of the catastrope. (This makes me wonder if Spain wasn't a precurser - a test run.
 4. Number Four is scarier than Number Three.  Bush loses legit but says "for the good of the country,
     we cannot trust America's future to those who would appease the evil-doer terrorists."
     At that point, the Supreme Court rules that Bush is entitled to the throne and we're left with two choices:

     Civil war or accept that we'll never get to vote again.
     Since Democrats are afraid to fight, look for the latter to happen.
 

  Care to comment?

 Hard lesson for U.S.
    by Gene Lyons

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 To anybody who questioned the wisdom of invading Iraq, however, nothing has been more
 disheartening than polls that show many Americans sharing two false beliefs: that Saddam Hussein
 participated in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and that "weapons of mass destruction" have been found there.
 Where on earth do these people get their information?

 From talk radio, that's where. Never mind that the Bush administration has repeatedly hinted at Iraqi
 crimes it cannot prove; the main source of right-wing agitprop in the U.S. is there 24/7 on your radio dial.
 

  Care to comment?

 Quotes

"It's very much like the American minorities here in this country. You can never hear about the
  bad things they do. It's hush-hush but if a Timothy McVeigh should come along, then it gets
  front page coverage. Because the story line goes that white male, Christian, heterosexuals are
  evil and all of the others are -- are -- are victims and only getting their just rewards by fighting back."
    --Michael Savage, "Savage: Arabs are "non-humans" and 'racist, fascist bigots'" Attribution
 

 Michael Savage made his fortune from ignorant conservatives who buy this crap.

 To hear him tell it, "negroes" have been blowing up federal buildings, killing hundreds, for years,
 but the liberal establishment refused to cover any of those crimes until a white Christian did it.

 These are the poeople who impeached Bill Clinton.
 Impeachment was all about race - that was the Number One reason Clinton had to go.

 Killing people for their own good
   by Molly Ivins

  Click  Here

  Excerpt:
 It's quite difficult to convince people you are killing them for their own good. That's our basic problem in Iraq.

 You can try explaining that you are killing them in order to bring freedom and democracy to their nation --
"Freedom is the Almighty's gift to every man and woman in the world," said President Bush. However, this
 argument is less than convincing if an American bomb or bullet has just killed your child. Or if you were
 among the 70 percent to 90 percent of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib who were there by accident."
 

 I wonder how many American dead we'll have by election day...
 I wonder what percent of the military vote Bush will get...
 Will the families of those serving in Iraq vote for more war?
 

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