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"When Strom Thurmond ran for president we voted
for him. We're proud of it.
And if the rest of the country had
of followed our lead we wouldn't have had
all these (race) problems over all
these years, either."
-- Trent Lott (R-Racist)
who surely has learned his lesson by now,
Link
"Why do they hate each other? Why do Sunnis
kill Shiites?
How do they tell the difference?
They all look the same to me."
-- Trent Lott, proving me
wrong again, Link
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Gates &
the Iran-Contra Legacy
by Ivan Eland
consortiumnews.com
Excerpt:
Official Washington quickly grew tired of the
Iran-Contra scandal in the mid-to-late 1980s.
The tales of money-laundering, arms smuggling
and even drug trafficking were deemed
too complicated and too troubling for the public
to properly comprehend.
So, few of the true Iran-Contra lessons were ever
learned. In essence, the White House's
abuse of power amounted to a test run for an
all-powerful Executive who could override
the nation's laws and the Constitution at his
whim to pursue foreign policies that few Americans
would understand, let alone endorse, such as
shipping weapons to Iran, then and now labeled
a supporter of international terrorism.
In this guest essay, the Independent Institute's
Ivan Eland looks back at that pivotal scandal
and what it means for Bush to appoint Gates,
an Iran-Contra veteran, to be Secretary of Defense:
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"Carville has spent the past six years happily
sequesterd in the gimp closet,
visited occasionally by Dick Cheney
and the angular harpy he refers to as his wife,
Mary Matalin. Now that the Democrats
have retaken the House and the Senate,
he is apparently allowed out on furlough
for more than just occasionally servicing
Tim Russert. He has managed to
reclaim a bit of the spotlight once again as he
tilts irrelevantly at windmills and
carps about Howard Dean."
--Jane Hamsher,
seething with hate, "Carville's
New Gig"
A mountain of personal insults because Carville
alleged that Dean failed to spend the $6M
that he had in his pocket to help an additional
dozen Democrats who lost by a point.
Why is it impossible that Carville could be right?
Why does Carville deserve a mountain of personal
insults for having an opinion?
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The Neocons'
Last Stand
by Sid Blumenthal
guardian.co.uk
Excerpt:
Even before the election, the guardians of the
Bush family trust surfaced as the presumptive executive
committee of the executive branch. For years,
Poppy Bush and his former national-security team have
tried to rescue the president from himself -
and from the clutches of his neo-con centurions. Earlier this year
Bush Sr quietly approached a retired four-star
general to inquire if he would be willing to replace Rumsfeld,
but that premature coup came to naught. Several
of the father's associates personally warned Bush Jr before
the Iraq war that it would lead to sectarian
civil war, only to be dismissed with disdain.
James Baker is now chairman of the Iraq Study
Group (ISG) and has assumed the aura of a regent.
He is burdened with more tasks than those specified
in his commission's brief about Iraq. Not only is he
developing a whole new US foreign policy, he
is trying to salvage whatever can be retrieved from the
wreckage of Bush's presidency for its last two
years and to prevent the Republican party, having lost
the crown jewel of the Congress, from being permanently
tainted.
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"Jack Murtha is being waterboarded by the Drive-By
Media."
-- Rush the vulgar Pigboy
I have no idea what that means - I doubt
the Pigboy does, either.
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Subject: McCain
Bart, you wrote:
> I keep reading, "Carville thinks..."
> Stop telling me what he thinks, stop telling
me what
> he hopes for - and just tell me what he
said.
I'm pissed because you didn't take that attitude
with Nader.
Oh, no.
With Nader, you put it out again and again that
he said "No difference" even after I
asked you to either believe me or do the research
yourself that he never said that.
Tracy, first thing - take a deep breath and reminder I'm a good guy.
Did he ever utter the phrase, "The lesser
of two evils is still evil?"
Do his followers know the difference between "the two evils" and "no
difference?"
He said, "...haven't done enough to distinguish
themselves from the Republicans."
But you kept harping "No difference" all the
time when he never wrote that I could find,
nor did he say it the several times I heard him
speak.
With Carville you say, "What are the facts?
What did he really say?"
but with Nader you spread lies when I was telling
you the truth.
I don't know what to think about this.
Tracy Blevins, Ph.D.
First, I don't trust Nader.
He won't run for any office but Leader of the Free World.
Why didn't he run for something Nov 7 so we could see if
he could attract some votes in some local race?
A man in my position reads a truckload of e-mails every day from lots
of people.
After a while, the bumper-sticker simplicities told me that's how Naderite's
think.
There's often a difference between what Nader (or anybody) says and
what his peeps hear.
Funny, you don't sound like one of them :)
I'm trying to find out what happened with the top dogs in the party.
Instead of facts, I'm getting interpretations - impressions.
Ain't nothing wrong with an ignorant person (me) asking for the facts.
Also, people tell me "Nader is The Man, he
says what counts."
Maybe now that we've won an election, we can look at him in new light.
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"In the years I have lived in America, South
Africa has gone from being
an apartheid state to one where its
gay citizens now have more civil rights
than they do in the U.S. "
-- Andrew Sullivan, allied with the gay-bashing Fascist bigots - I wonder
why? Link
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Clear Channel
calls it quits
They can't survive without Bush's insanity
WaHoPo
Excerpt:
Clear Channel, the 1,200-station radio chain
that sponsored Bush's bloody quagmire in Iraq ,
has agreed to sell the company to a consortium
of private-equity firms for nearly $27 billion.
The buyers bid for Tribune Co., which owns several
newspapers and television stations.
So-called old media have shown little or negative
growth in recent years, which makes them
unattractive to Wall Street and public ownership.
It's been all downhill for Clear Channel stock
since its high of nearly $100 per share in 2000,
and a buyout likely represents the greatest value
owners felt they could get for their shareholders
before common sense sweeps the Capitol.
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Subject: memo to Carville
Memo to James Carville: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
Today, Carville stated that *DEAN* was at fault
for the Dems not picking up another 20 seats in the
House, and that, "I [Carville] think he should
be held accountable. I would describe his leadership as
Rumsfeldian in its competence." When asked by
a reporter whether Dean should be dumped,
Carville replied, "In a word, do I think? Yes."
Rumsfeldian incompetence?
Trying to take credit for the 50-state strategy?
Is he HIGH?
It's one thing for him to (stupipdly) pimp Harold
Ford as the next DNC chair, but to go so far
as to call Dean incompetent and compare his performance
to that of a mindless, war-mongering
asshole is over the line. (And no way is Carville
free-lancing on this one, either).
Schumer and Emmanuel are giving Dean props in
public, and you know the state party
officials are in love with Dean at the moment,
so I don't think he's going anywhere.
But all this in-fighting taking place in public
has to stop. And fast.
MDG
Calling Nov 7 a "failure" is cricker-crocker - that's why I asked
for quotes and context.
You quote Carville, but you failed to send the link.
Odd that Carville would accept (apparently) 2000, 2002, and 2004 but
then characterize
2006 as a "Rumsfeldian failure" that someone should be held accountable
for.
Something
I found:
According to Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg,
"there were two dozen seats in which Republicans
got 51 percent or less....There is a very
big difference between defending these seats as incumbents
or still trying to pick these up while they are
being protected by Republicans."
Carville said "We beat the hell out of them at
the committees, at the congressional [campaign] committees.
The DNC [Democratic National Committee] left
the money on the table."
So, each side seems to have good points - so we need more facts to make
a decision.
Dean had a great victory on Nov 7, picking up 28 seats or so. Greenburg-Carville
seem to be saying
that 28 could've been 52 if Dean had spend the money that was given
to him on tight races.
Greenburg-Carville have no trouble smiting Dean for winning,
but I didn't hear
the same vitriol when Kerry left money on the table - while losing
- in 2004.
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Dems hand
Pelosi first defeat
It was fun while it lasted...
Link
Excerpt:
Democrats pushed John Murtha down the steps and
kicked Nancy Pelosi in the face, knocking
several of her teeth to the floor when they picked
Rep. Steny Hoyer (Who?) to be House majority leader.
Murtha was Pelosi's good friend and handpicked
choice to help her move legislation over Bush's ass,
when the Democrats panicked at the thought
of winning and ate one of their own for no goddamn reason.
Hoyer (Who?) defeated the immesely popular nationwide
hero John Murtha in a vote of 149-86.
The vote was recorded on those fabulous Diebold
Machines we keep hearing about.
"Steny was more where the mainstream of where
the party was," said Barney Frank.
"She's a very smart woman who made an error in
judgment."
Wait, Murtha heads the "End this war" faction
of the Democratic Party.
Why are Democrats opposing him?
Cheeses, it's been 9 days and already I need a
graphic of Pelosi with
a Democratic knife sticking out of her back.
Who the hell is Steny Hoyer and why is he favored
over Murtha?
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Pigboy's
comeuppance
marketwatch.com
Excerpt:
At last, Rush Limbaugh got his comeuppance. And
he did it all by himself. My favorite Election Day
moment occurred at the very end of the process,
when newly elected Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill
slyly thanked Limbaugh for his role in her victory.
Yes, revenge was sweet for the Democrats.
And why not?
Limbaugh had delighted in kicking sand in their
faces for years, luxuriating in the GOP's dominance in
national politics. In contrast to Limbaugh's
trademark, piercing proclamations, McCaskill made her
remark while flashing a big, triumphant smile.
But she clearly relished in twisting the knife.
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Carville's
New Gig
Why it's important to hate him
firedoglake.com
Excerpt:
James Carville has spent the past six years happily
sequesterd in the gimp closet, visited occasionally
by Dick Cheney and the angular harpy he refers
to as his wife, Mary Matalin. Now that the Democrats
have retaken the House and the Senate, he is
apparently allowed out on furlough for more than just
occasionally servicing Tim Russert. He
has managed to reclaim a bit of the spotlight once again as
he tilts irrelevantly at windmills and carps
about Howard Dean.
In his performance on The Situation Room today
today he was a skeletal rack of twitching indignation,
castigating Dean for not giving Rahm more money
to light his cigars with give to Democratic congressional
candidates ("my heart bleeds for them" he laments
with the melodrama button cranked all the way up to 11).
I wanted Bay Buchanan to offer him a hankie tell
him not to worry, Rahm would only have flushed more
money down the shitter to follow the $4 million
he threw after losers Diane Farrell and Tammy Duckworth,
but she just nodded with a bobbling wag of angular
features that made me think she could be auditioning
for the role of his Second Missus.
sequesterd in the gimp closet?
angular harpy?
allowed out on furlough?
servicing Tim Russert?
tilts irrelevantly at windmills and carps?
skeletal rack of twitching indignation?
If Carville is guilty of something, why
not mention what that is?
The Carville/Clinton/DNC haters are insult-driven,
why
can't they be fact-driven?
How do they expect to win converts by screaming "Poopy
pants!" at the opposition?
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"The radical homosexual agenda will not stop
until religion is outlawed in this country.
They threaten your very survival. They
will not stop until they force their agenda down your throats."
-- Michael Savage, trying so very hard to get some attention,Link
Poor Mikey the Weiner (his real name)
Last time he got some attention, he screamed at
a gay caller,
"I hope you choke on a susage. You should
get AIDS and die."
Poor Mikey.
Is he still having sex with wax statues?
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Why Trent
Lott?
by bad seed Jonah Goldberg
latimes.com
Excerpt:
Who says the Republicans are the Stupid Party?
Huge numbers of voters told exit pollsters that they
were disgusted with the nigh-upon Roman excesses
of the GOP; the self-dealing, the pork-barrel
spending, the aloofness was just too much. Meanwhile,
strategists warned that the Republican Party
was becoming too white, too male and too exclusively
Southern. Ken Mehlman, the outgoing head
of the RNC, said after the recent thumpin', "We
rely too much on white guys for our vote."
So what did the GOP senators do when they needed
to pick their No. 2 man in the Senate?
They shouted, 'This is a job for Trent Lott!'"
From left: Trent Lott, Karl Rove, GW Bush
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Subject: election
My birthday was election day and i got exactly
what i wanted. The IMPEACHMENT TEAM!
Xmas is coming and I derserve another present.
Please send me some t-shirt. (order given)
I'd like to thank you for two things. First
it was you that inspired me to go see Shirley in concert.
I wrote you the morning after. loved it.
You knew.
Second and most important; I feel that YOU
may have done more for our country
in the last few years than anybody I can think
of. I mean that.
You were telling the truth back when it was dangerous
to do so. Wellstone? Carnahan to name a few.
The BFEE has been exposed and there is now a
chance for liberty to prevail.
Someday maybe we can have a shot of tequila together.
Maybe when bu$h is IMPEACHED!!!!
Keep hammering.
Please do not let the republicans pressure the
Dems for a solution to Iraq. IRAQ IS A CRIME.
There is no easy solution for this CRIME.
Bu$h has no solution; he lied us into it.
The only way to begin the healing is to prosecute
the bastards that committed this CRIME.
Crimes are not and never were a US policy.
This is on the BFEE and nobody else.
Try listening to some Warren Zevon sometime if
you haven't already.
He has been my favorite for years.
steve
Steve, thanks for all that.
We have to stop the killing of soldiers in Iraq - that part needs to
be solved.
I doubt anything but another Saddam can stop them from killing each
other.
I wouldn't want to be in Bush's shoes.
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Take a hike,
Karl
His reputation is ruined
Link
Excerpt:
One of the best results of the 2006 elections
was the shattering of Karl Rove's reputation as
a political marvel. Rove has made more excuses
and alibis for the Republican losses than a
football coach who has just lost a 49-0 game.
He wants to blame scandals in the party and
other extraneous reasons but never the president
or himself. Rove's campaigns of smashing
opponents by any means possible have caught up
with him. His history is full of stories of
dirty tricks and hardball tactics...Any misery
for Rove in 2006 was well deserved.
He has made a career of making misery for others.
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"Tony Blair said in January 2004 that Iraq
was about to enter "a very critical six months."
Chuck Hagel said "the next six months
will be very critical" in August 2005, and Biden said
"the next six months are going to tell
the story" in December 2005. Gen. George Casey said
in early October that "the next
six months will determine the future of Iraq." And a certain
New York Times columnist has declared
the importance of the "next six months" so many
times that 180 days is now known in
some circles as 'a Friedman.' "
--Tim Grieve, Link
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Subject: Carville
Bart,
Carville is pissed that in the last week of the
campaign Dean, DNC, Rahm etc.. sat on 6 million bucks
that they could have rushed in to some very tight
House races that were taken by less that 1% by Repubs.
He feels that this would have gotten potentially
another 10 seats for us.
Dean and Rahm have responded that Carville just
doesn't know what he is talking about.
Who knows?
Tom
Tom, I agree and that's my point.
Before we lynch Carville, can we ask if what he said was true?
IF Carville told them, "I could win you five more seats if I had three
million dollars more,"
and the DNC wanted to "pull a Kerry" and not spend the money, he should
be pissed.
We get plenty of name calling (from the usual Huffington suspects) but
no facts.
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Reminder:
Early in his maladministration, didn't Der Boy
Fuhrer threaten to quit
and go back to Crawford if he didn't get his
way on some vote?
Maybe someone should remind him about that.
I expect the next two years to be pure hell for
the boy.
Since he's not 1/10 the man Clinton is, I predict
a fun-as-hell crack up.
Let's hope he doesn't kill to many people doing
it.
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"Bush is in Southeast Asia this week and because
of the metric system.
his approval rating over there is actually
62 percent."
-- David Letterman
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Iraq pumped 3.5M
barrels daily before
Bush invaded
and then they got their 2003 Halliburton
upgrade
Bush's oil gouge, which is going to $100
a
barrel
makes $350,000,000
Bush
will steal every day.
No wonder they were so eager to start a war,
stealing $350,000,000
every
day.
It's the biggest theft in Earth's history.
Exxon made
$10B profit in 90 days
$100M a day - all profit - because Bush started a fake war
Link
Bush's "Bring 'em on"
death taunt is up to...
2859....2863
American victims
Bush killed another 4
soldiers since yesterday.
Exxon
made $100M in profit since Monday.
Think The BFEE is ready
for this war to end?
Exxon's new slogan
$100M
and 3.4 soldiers a day!
Meanwhile, Bush's war costs taxpayers
$2 billion a week.
He's the greatest president ever - if you have oil stocks.
Bush has killed more
Americans than Osama.
http://icasualties.org/oif/
Robert Gates-Gate
by Ray McGovern
consortiumnews.com
Excerpt:
One of the first tests of the Democratic congressional
majority's mettle may come during the
lame-duck session with Republicans still in control,
as Bush rushes through Robert Gates,
a longtime Bush Family ally, into the job of
Defense Secretary. Bush's clever maneuver has
linked the Senate's acceptance of Gates to the
removal of Rumsfeld, whose arrogance and
bungling have made him a top target of the Democrats.
Bush's offer-you-can't-refuse is that
if you want Rumsfeld's head, you must take a
dive on Gates.
Gates, however, has a checkered past that makes
his appointment as Defense Secretary
problematical. New evidence suggests that he
lied to Congress during the Iran-Contra scandal
and during his confirmation in 1991 to become
CIA director under George H.W. Bush.
[For details, see Consortiumnews.com's "The
Secret World of Robert Gates."]
In this guest essay, former CIA officer Ray McGovern
gives his perspective on Gates,
whom McGovern has known for 36 years:
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Subject: little girl
Bart -- Re the pic of Santorum and his daughter;
Regardless of how bad she looks in the picture,
she's 10 years old.
She's not responsible for ANYTHING! She
doesn't deserve to be ridiculed
in public and certainly not by us on the humanitarian
side of the political fence.
Let's stop picking on little girls. Leave that
to Rush and the rest of the Repugs.
Jack H
I had/have no idea how old she is, and I'm certainly not calling her
"Pennsylvania's
dog."
I mocked her 100-year old clothes, which I assume Mrs. Man-on-dog picked
out for her.
If she wore a comdom over her nose, I could mention that, right? And
not having kids,
I'm just guessing, but do normal 10 year old girls still carry their
dolls? In public?
I'm breathing a sigh of relief that, as weird as this man-on-dog, dead-fetus-handling
family is,
at least Man-on-dog Santorum is out of power and can't make other little
girls look and dress this way.
I'm
a small time gambler, Bart
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