Subject: You really want a debate?

I see you whine every day that no "conservative" will debate you.  As evidence of the mental weakness
of those who disagree with Bartcop, you seem to pick out the most ignorant, scatological, and rabid frothings
of the lunatic Clinton-haters who stumble over your site and go berserk.

I see it differently.
I think the smarter Repubs know Rush is lying/kidding and they don't want to defend him.
Hell, I never knew I had any debating skills until I made Gordon Liddy eat it one day on his radio show.
Truth is, you can win debates with an IQ of 64 ...if you're on the right side of an issue.
 
Come on.  If you really want a debate, there's plenty to disagree with in any of your ramblings.
E.g., take 8/23.  I love Bartcop - it's my homepage, but you're wrong on :
 
1.  Condit.
 
2.  Nader.
 
3.  RFK.
 
I'll go first:
 
1.  The ConditCockChasers are a most loathsome band of witless sensationalists, in no regard morally superior
to the federal gangsters who operated under the protection of their capo, Judge Kenny The Kingtwit Starr.
Condit's dissembling reluctance to confess his moral turpitude was in no significant regard worse than Clinton's
attempt to conceal his embarrassing trysts with Monica.  Indeed, at least Condit didn't go on TV and lie in my face,
and go on to repeat the same lie for a whole goddam year.  Condit also didn't lie under oath in Federal Court.
(Do you know what an oath is?  It's something that used to be important.)
 

Zorba, this line "no significant regard worse than Clinton's" can only be true if Condit knows where she is.
If he knew FOR A FACT that there was no way his cooperation could make a difference, you'd be right.
But that would make him at least an accessory.  If we assume he doesn't know where she is, then he
should've cooperated fully to help the cops when the trail was still hot.
With Clinton, no lives were at stake,

...and Clinton was right to lie when he did.
This was always nothing more than an illegal cockhunt, and he was right to show it contempt.
 

2.  Ralph Nader is a heroic figure who offered Independents, Progressives, and Heathens a reason to vote
last November.  If GoreBush forces hadn't combined and conspired with their corporate sponsors to
exclude him from the "debates," what percentage of the vote do you guess he would have won?
Anybody who thinks a vote for Nader = a "lost" vote for Gore is an unthinking dope.
The second choice of most Nader-voters I know was NoneOfTheAbove.

So, you're saying "The reason Nader gave the White House to Bush is..." and then you filled in the blank.
If Nader had been in the debates, sure, he might've gotten to 6 percent.
If Buchanan had been there, maybe he'd have gotten 5 percent, and taken a point from Nader.
If the Natural Life Party candidate had been there, and the Socialists for Real Change party's rep,
and every other no-chance-to-win kook in America was on the forty person stage, we would've
ended up with a worse circus than the one we had.

Have you ever been in a chat room with 40 people? It's a madhouse.
And what's this line?
Anybody who thinks a vote for Nader = a "lost" vote for Gore is an unthinking dope.
Nader got 3 percent - if that's not a lost vote, please explain to this unthinking dope what is...
It's sounds like you're saying Nader's people aren't Democrats, which is what some us us suspected all along.
Then people write and say, "How can you think Nader was a GOP plant?"
I wish you and them could get together.
 

3.  RFK, much like the aforementioned Judge Starr, was an political opportunist, a dangerous and thuggish
authoritarian who recognized no limits to the power of government, especially when pursuing "enemies of
the state" like Jimmy Hoffa.

Wow, I don't think I've ever met anyone who was pro-mob before.

The sob never said a single word against the Vietnam War until we had 500,000 draftees in the jungle and
triple-digit casualties in bodybags and wheelchairs.  RFK's anti-war "conversion" occurred the day after
Gene McCarthy ran a close second behind the supposedly invincible LBJ in the New Hampshire Presidential
Primary of 1968, thus illuminating a path to reclaming the White House for his clan.  Look it up.

Where could a doubting BartCop look up something like that?
"Never said a single word?" You must have one hell of a Nexis database.

Notably, RFK's record on civil rights was much the same story.  As Attorney General (1960-64, before blazing
Hillary's path to Congress by moving to NY and winning a Senatorship to DC), I never heard him speak out
against weekly lynchings in the U.S. of A(partheid).

Hmmm, you seem very sure about things Bobby never said.
Did you read a book or something that someone made these charges?
I guess if his closest aides said that, it could be true - to their knowledge.
Back in the sixties, how did people gather information on what somebody never said?
These days, with the www and Nexis and 24/7 cable, there's a lot of info out there
(much of it pure horseshit) but 37 years ago, how weere these "facts" uncovered?
 

I say, it's way past time to free Sirhan.
He's paid for his crime, such as it was.

No, he stays there forever.
It's one thing to fuck up, it's another thing to change the lives of every person on the planet.
If Bobby had won in 1968, there's a chance the war would've ended in 1969.
That means the Vietnam Memorial would've been a lot cheaper to build.
Sirhan needs to die in prison.

By the way, this has nothing to do with anything, and I know I sometimes give away too much,
but when I went to that founddogtags.com yesterday, I was unprepared for my reaction.
It's one thing to hear the phrase "55,000 dead" but seeing the names got to me.
I had tears on my shirt.

Maclin, Carliss
Macrides, M.G. Jr.
Madron, J.L.
Mahler, G.R.
Manning, Devin J.
Maricevic, Ivan
Maroost, Randall F.
Martin, Conard W.
Martin, Leonard M.
Matlock, Michael
Maxwell, Harold D.
Mayo, Cresencianto M.
Mayo, Noland Jr.
McCain, Curtis E
McCord, Donamd O.
McElroy, R.W.
McIntyre, William C.
McKenzie, Frankie D. Jr.
McManus, Varry H.
McMullen, Thomas
Mead, Ronald W.
Medina, M.
 

Jesus, that's tough to look at.
All those body bags, all those flags, all those women in black, all those grieving families.
Seeing those names isn't easy.
I was in DC in 1998, and had a chance to visit The Wall. but I just couldn't go.
All those men in uniform, on one knee, crying, I couldn't handle it.

Bobby, MLK, Bill Clinton - they wanted fewer names on that list, on The Wall.

So, no, Sirhan needs to die in prison.
It's the least he can do.
 

Thanks for playing by the rules.