Bartcop -
I got to ask..You keep saying we've lost
the bill of rights.
Exactly how many rights have you personally
lost?
No one else seems to notice any difference.
If anything,
No one I've asked shares your view that
we've lost any freedoms.
Interesting question. I'm white, 49, healthy
and employed.
I'm going to need it less than most (hopefully).
Since I 'got mine," maybe I should let
the other guy "get his?"
Hey I know, let's run thru the Bill of
Rights real quick and check on their health.
Amendment I
Congress shall
make no law respecting an establishment of religion
Bush is using MY taxes to fund Invisinble Cloud Being insanity that caused 9-11.
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
Ari Fliesher told Bill Maher "Watch
what you say," for telling the truth.
Also, librarians can go to prison
if they talk to certain library customers.
or the right of
the people peaceably to assemble
Yesterday in New York, protest organizers
were denied a permit to assemble.
The reason? There were too many people,
up to 500,000 were expected.
We've been denied the right to assemble,
because too many of us are angry.
Amendment II
...the right of
the people to keep and bear Arms
Bush
loves guns (and killing) almost as much as he loves tax cuts, so yes,
The Second Amendment, so far, is still
in effect.
Amendment III
No Soldier shall,
in time of peace....
Bush has dragged us into a never-ending war, so III doesn't count
Amendment IV
The right of the
people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers, and effects,
against unreasonable searches and seizures,
shall not be violated,
and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause
Bush
has made a mockery of the Fourth Amendment.
He can f-ing EXECUTE you if he feels like
it.
Do you STILL think we have a Bill of Rights?
Amendment V
No person shall
be held ...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property,
without due process
of law;
Another
plank in the Constitution devoured by the Greedy Oil Monster
There are THOUSANDS of
SUSPECTS being held without bail, without
being arraigned by a judge to see if there is probable cause,
without attorneys and without even a phone
call to their family. Do you think they manage the immigration
rolls with more or less competence than
they handled eligibility rolls of black voters in Jeb Bush's Florida?
...and you can't see a difference between
that and Clinton's America?
Amendment VI
In all criminal
prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy
and public trial,
by an impartial jury, ...informed of the nature the accusation;
...witnesses, ...have
Counsel for his defence.
Total
washout by the BFEE goons. It's an abortion of justice on the most
massive scale imaginable,
but we don't talk about it, because "then
the terrorists would win," if we upheald the Constitution.
Amendment VII includes the phrase the right of trial by jury shall be preserved
In Bush's America, there is no right
to a trial by jury.
In Bush's America, you have the right to
be jailed on the government's whim.
In Bush's America, you have the right to
be executed on the government's whim.
And please, don't say,
"But Bush hasn't done any of that."
How would you know?
I'm so old, I remember when the GOP was
against a federal government of tyranny and secrecy.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail
shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and
unusual punishments inflicted..
ha ha
Being executed on the government's whim
sounds cruel and unusual to me.
Can you make a case that it doesn't?
Amendment IX
This one has to do with funding women's sports equal to mens - let's skip that one.
Amendment X
The powers ...not
delegated to the United States are reserved
to the States respectively,
or to the people.
The
Tenth - Bob Dole's all-time favorite.
Remember that pitiful campaign Bob ran
in 1996?
He kept The Tenth on a car in his jacket
so he could whip it out whenever he wanted to talk
about the powers of the states, which we
all know is code talk for "I Wish I Was in Dixie."
The next Republican for president didn't
feel that same way about The Tenth Amendment.
He got his father's friends to go before
a hardly-impartial Supreme Court and asked them
to overturn the Tenth Amendment and appoint
the Bush boy in opposition to the voters' wishes.
So
let's do a re-cap.
#1.you lost on three counts, but we'll
say that's just one down
#2 has changed, but only to get more guns
in people's hands,
#3 is a peacetime amendment, doesn't apply,
#4 was a mockery, I should get double for
that, but that makes two we've lost
#5 due process, you don't even get a trial,
so that's three fallen Amendments
#6 speedy, public trial - no chance, that
makes four lost Amendments
#7 trial by jury for common lawsuits, not
applicable
#8 cruel & unusual - that's five Dead
Amendments
#9 women's basketball - who cares?
#10 states rights, that makes six of
ten Amendments destroyed by Bush.
So I ask..
What is wrong with looking at those who
would seek to harm or kill us if given the chance?
I have no probem with "looking at" suspicious
people.
Jailing them until further notice by breaking
four or five Amendments is what I don't like
Sidebar:
We gotta be having a semantics problem.
I don't want to let the guilty go free...
I'm saying ...they don't even get a
trial They don't even get charged with a crime.
Bush can secretly execute them or secretly
hold them until (if) he leaves office.
Is that America?.
Shoe bomber Richard Reid tried to blow up
an airliner full of people, and got life in prison.
What do you find wrong with that?
Carrigan
From what I've read, Reid is absolutely, positively and certainly
guilty.
There were dozens of witnesses just a few feet away and - he
confessed,
Since we know he's guilty, I say we turn him over to Bush
and Ashcroft.
Let them murder someone who is guilty for sure.
The credibility boost for Bush would be enormous.