Pre-debate chatter:

  Zomar:
Bartcop - rip his nazi nuts off and feed 'em to him on a stick!
In a politically correct way, of course...

     Watsmata4u:
people who dont want kids have abortions early. Late term abortions are for those for have
problems.

     christianm:
When's this thing getting underway? Where's the champ?

     mightyWalrus:
Hey Jerky: dont like slavery? well then dont own one! Either case, people are being treated
as property and thats WRONG

     blitzer89:
Lanny nailed Barbara because she had no evidence that the announcement came out of
the Gore campaign.

     cadmas:
I take it Walrus is a man

     RantingWacko:
Walrus, I agree that abortions are bad things. I don't think anyone will deny that...

     dr.bomb:
Just chillin' out. Gettin ready to watch the fights. Havin' an Erdinger...

     uberfem13:
sorry worstnightmare.......even with the red hair I am a liberalbabe

     JerkyLeBoeuf:
Another aspect of D&E is the problems some developing fetuses develop near the end of
the third trimester.

     genslab:
is bc here yet?

     WilliamL15:
bush and the repugs are toast

     RantingWacko:
You act like I'm personally going up to women and saying "Hey... let's go have sex so you
can go and have an abortion later."

     christianm:
Forgive my ignorance, but what's an Erdinger?

     BSmasher:
glenslab are you able to operate machinery safely

     bartcop:
yo

     gonzo6031:
3 min to showtime

     dr.bomb:
BartCop's IN DA HOUSE! WORD!!!

     Doc_Enola:
The goal with outlawing D&

     ReligiouslyInsane:
I hope bartcop does this drunk

     mightyWalrus:
Hey Willima15 DREAM ON

     Zomar:
Hootray!!!

     bartcop:
ha ha

     WilliamL15:
LOL

     killjoie:
BC!

     Pipeguy:
Shhhhhhhh down in front

     WilliamL15:
BART!

     kwawin:
we're not worthy!!!

     mightyWalrus:
You mean Bartcop isnt drunk all the time?

     bartcop:
I'd better get in the ring...

     artr2:
Kick ass bart!!

     uberfem13:
who thinks abortion is a GOOD thing? cripes!.....but an unwanted child is much much
worse...Republicans.....hands OFF business, hand IN your pants

     worstnightmare:
That's ok. So's my sister and I don't hold it against her.

     killjoie:
But there are other reasons that women have D&C's not just pregnancies.

     WilliamL15:
our hero

     Watsmata4u:
ATTEN-HUT!!!!

     rss:
BC is in the house.

     Robert_Ingersoll:
<<<<<<<<<<<<FANFARE!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     blitzer89:
okay. let's get it on.

     WilliamL15:
YAY

     JerkyLeBoeuf:
Hey Bartcop! Break a leg! (Bird's, of course)

     ReligiouslyInsane:
So do we all shut up during this? No fair to Bird with dozens of "hell yeah"s echoing

     Doc_Enola:
rat own.

     WilliamL15:
let's rock

     MrConservative:
kick ass bird

     onehandle:
Yo Bart!

     Estab:
Bartcop, don't hurt him too bad, its mean to pick on the mentally disabled

     birdbath:
Genslab waiting for you.

     dr.bomb:
Now when will birdbath speak?

     go3:
silence

     kwawin:
<--- passing smelling salts out to all repugs in the house

     Doc_Enola:
kick bird ass

     BSmasher:
I did not have alcohol with that bottle

     WilliamL15:
zipping my mouth

     mightyWalrus:
Hey uberfem: no child is unwanted by everyone:
its just a question of finding the right parents

     Watsmata4u:
BC...I hope you didn't drive drunk to get here

     onehandle:
DUI DUI DUI!!!

     dr.bomb:
I have a KILLER question!
This one will blow 'em out of the water fer sure,
word to yer mama and all dat!

     uberfem13:
I feel like I am in grade school........"fight....fight...."......ha

     Zomar:
Use that glock and give him some compassionate conservatism

     birdbath:
LOL

     bartcop:
Bird, you here?

     genslab:
did that work?

     WilliamL15:
let's be quiet now

     Lifeizgut:
is this a great country or what? sshh

     birdbath:
here

     RantingWacko:
Jerky, sorry to seamingly ignore you... but I know the stuff too.
I did a paper on the procedure and talked to several doctors,
checked a few dozen websites (Operation Rescue included)

     mightyWalrus:
hey uberfem, Im not doing that crap give me some credit at least

     killjoie:
and none of this sissy slap fighting... now scratching or gouging.

     bartcop:
Gens, you here?

     dr.bomb:
This sure isn't IRC fer sure. :-(

     birdbath:
Waiting on genslab

     kwawin:
...and no groin kicks

     genslab:
yeah every body stop posting

     WilliamL15:
shhhhhh

     dr.bomb:
Lesse here...WordPad...yup! Erdinger...yup! Chinaco Reposado...yup! I'm ready!

     birdbath:
EVERY BODY SHUT UP

     genslab:
it works

     birdbath:
it works!!!!!

     bartcop:
Gens, we're ready to go?



     birdbath:
whats first topic?

     bartcop:
I was hoping to record it, thought we'd be in the other section,
but I'm good to go either way

     birdbath:
this is cool bart

     genslab:
yeah I think so

     birdbath:
lets stay here so there is no interuptions

     bartcop:
Bird, I don't know much about you, but you've read some bartcop.com
Are you a ditto-head, or do you see Rush as a clown?

     birdbath:
Definatly a ditto head, however I don't always agree with Rush
on all matters. We needed to send Elian home.

     bartcop:
We could start with guns. You have a bunch.
Do you see a need for ANY restrictions on guns?

     birdbath:
Since we both own them I didn't think we were gonna talk about them but....

     bartcop:
The difference is, I have a Glock with me often,
but you have a lot of assault weapons - why?

     birdbath:
There are enough regulations on Guns. The liberals in this country
have an agenda fronted by Sarah Brady and others to end the 2nd ammendment.
I love my assault weapons. The whole puupose of the 2nd ammendment is
to keep the Govt. in check ,....sort of like a check and balance

     bartcop:
But do you see the need for ANY restrictions?

     birdbath:
Some say how could the people overthrough a govt. with its military
but they are all volunteers and they can leave when they want to.
No restriction except strong background checks

     bartcop:
So, kids, on drugs, can have AK-47s?

     birdbath:
Don't get me wrong ...No bazookas

     birdbath:
must be over 21 of course for hand guns 18 for rifles

     bartcop:
Ok, we've established that you're a gun-grabber,
now we have to determine how close to Sarah Brady you are

     birdbath:
Sarah is EVIL

     bartcop:
I'm not sure Heston would be happy with you

     birdbath:
Hitler restircted his populas from owning Firearms

     bartcop:
Sarah MAY be mistaken, but evil? Her life was ruined by a gun

     birdbath:
If gore wins this election I'll only take orders from Heston

     bartcop:
The book on you was correct

     bartcop:
I'm not sure if it's the topic or the forum, but I was
anticipating a faster-moving debate. Shall we try another topic?

     birdbath:
She lived a life of partying in the white house because of her husband,
she could stand being taken out of this spotlight when he was shot
so she pulls this crap just to get attention

     bartcop:
We have to get to abortion sooner or later, let's try that.
You pro-life?

     birdbath:
just a sec

     bartcop:
It's a yes/no question...

     birdbath:
I am Anti-Abortion with an exception for cases when the Mother's
life is danger of being lost due to physical reasons (I do NOT view
"mental health" as a reason to have an abortion PERIOD) Abortion is murder,
life is not a mistake. Abortion and physician assisted suicide cheapen
human life. Doctors are sworn to protect life, not end it... even a life.
In the womb, the baby reacts to environmental stimuli and shares many
of the physiological features that define human life. Furthermore, most
mothers who had an abortion suffer a great deal of mental and/or physical
anguish due to their "choice". Abortion is a "choice" that very few people
can feel good about. Teach children to respect sex and the responsibility
that accompanies it. It makes better sense to prevent teen and unplanned
pregnancies by not taking part in actions that cause pregnancy

     bartcop:
So, you're pro-life for rape/incest, pro-choice on life of the mother, right?

     birdbath:
yup

     birdbath:
one thing though.....

     bartcop:
Could you vote for a candidate who was raised by a baby-killer?

     bartcop:
Do you realize that, as far as Rush and Steve Largent are concerned,
you're a baby-killer?

     birdbath:
I am against it but it should not be a part of politics to declare
if its right or wrong. It's up to the parents to teach them right
from wrong and it is wrong Period

     birdbath:
How am I a baby killer

     bartcop:
Let's put it this way: When it comes to abortion, do you want more
or less government interference?

     birdbath:
????\

     bartcop:
Do you need a moment?

     birdbath:
Less. it is up to the parents to teach their children to respect life
Govt. gets in the way of parents and schools to teach whats important.

     birdbath:
yes sometimes I need a moment

     bartcop:
So, you agree with me that the government should butt out of
medical decisions between a woman and her doctor?

     bartcop:
That's always been the essence of the BartCop quiz - if you answer,
you'll agree with the liberal view

     bartcop:
Did I mention it might be better to have short answers?

     birdbath:
YES BUT and this is a strong BUT, the people like you and me should
never have to pay for an abortion through taxes. Today people can have
an abortion and the HMO or another institution has to pick up the bill.
If a woman wants an abortion it should be on her own dime. Period

     bartcop:
So, poor women should do what? Use a coathanger?

     birdbath:
NO ,,...THEY SHOULDN'T GET PREGNANT!!!!

     bartcop:
So, mistakes should cost them their lives?
Coathangers kill

     birdbath:
Abviously they aren't responsible if they are making this kind
of mistake.  I do believe in condoms and the Pill You should be
able to get this through an HMO

     birdbath:
It's about acting responsible with sex

     bartcop:
You're pro-condom, too? You're more liberal than your website leads
one to think. If we agree on this topic also, maybe we should move on?

     birdbath:
We definatly don't agree but ok

     bartcop:
School prayer - I think the government is the wrong teacher, agree?

     birdbath:
waiting

     bartcop:
ha ha "waiting," that'll cost you

     birdbath:
depends you need to be more specific

     bartcop:
I say "No prayers in school" agree?

     birdbath:
At my old high school they have whats called
"meet you at the pole day" where Christian students stand and
pray around the flagpole for other students, the country,
their families or whatever else they want to.
It is a rule that they are not allowed to do this during school
hours and that's okay but every year protesters also come and
declare that this should not be happening on school property at all.
Not to mention the ridicule they go through during the prayer time
from the protesters.

     birdbath:
Every year you also hear about teachers, some Christian and some
not that lose their jobs because they offer a different explanation
of creation besides evolution or the Big bang theory or whatever.
This is a clear attack of religious views and the effort by the
left wing to stamp out religion in our lives.

     bartcop:
See? we agree again. You're a liberal, why are we debating?

     birdbath:
I don%u2019t know what your beliefs are but I know that I am
a child of God who was saved by the blood of Christ and that
one day I will stand before him and be rewarded

     bartcop:
You've read bartcop.com, you have a beef with my writings, what is it?

     birdbath:
WE should have prayers in school but you libs keep kicking it down

     bartcop:
Maybe we should save religious insanity for last...

     birdbath:
whats wrong with the Ten Commandment on the classroom wall

     bartcop:
It's horseshit, that's why.
I don't want my kid learning horseshit at school,
I want him learning facts.

     birdbath:
It teaches the basic humanity for the human race

     bartcop:
No, the First Comm is "I am God, worship me"

     birdbath:
Oh and Darwin is fact?????

     bartcop:
I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no God

     birdbath:
LOL

     bartcop:
Darwin is science, I'll go with science over horseshit any day
The diff between God and the Tooth Fairy is the Tooth Fairy
gives you 50 cents

birdbath:
You say that to him on the day you stand before him to be judged

     bartcop:
ha ha

     bartcop:
You say, "Wait until you're dead to say that," great bluff

     birdbath:
Yes lets save this for last or another completely new debate.

     bartcop:
OK, what do we disagree on, Mr Liberal?

     bartcop:
Don't make me get the big hammer out

     birdbath:
I believe in a PAINFUL Death Penalty (something like a firing
squad,guilotine,hanging,gas,chamber or the electric chair)
for murderer's, rapist's and child molesters (after all what
they did to their victims wasn't painless therefore their death
should NOT be pain free none of this painless lethal injection crap)
Capital punishment is about justice, not revenge. Laws and justice
must be exercised more consistently. People who murder, or commit
heinous crimes worthy of execution, have forfeited their rights to
live in society. More importantly, why all the fuss about convicted
criminals? Very rarely are the victim's families and friends
considered in the punishment of the criminal. In fact, liberal
institutions such as the ACLU have a love affair with criminals
and rarely show support for their victims.

     bartcop:
The ACLU is to the constitution what a religio-crazy is to the Bible

     bartcop:
I believe in the constitution - it exists, so why blame the ACLU
for taking the CONST seriously?

     birdbath:
BUT WHAT About the death penalty???

     bartcop:
I'm not strictly anti-DP, some, like Mcveigh, need to go.

     bartcop:
The DP is like a 6 year old with a hammer, Bush proves that
If he CAN murder someone, he will,

     bartcop:
maybe I'm not as left as you think I am,
and you're not as right as you think you are

     birdbath:
Agreed, but what about this commercial saying gore isn't
hard enough on hate crimes. Two sentenced to death and life
in prison for the other ...Sounds pretty hard to me

     birdbath:
Sorry BUSH

     bartcop:
I think that was Smirk, and he deserved it

     birdbath:
It's hypocrisy!!!!!

     bartcop:
All he had to do was FAKE a little compassion for the "niggers"
and he'd be invulnerable to the NAACP charges
But, no. He had to show the KKK that he was one of them
Just like in carolina, with the flag

     bartcop:
he winks to let the cavepeople know he's with them
He deserves that NAACP ad

     birdbath:
Half of the time the NAACP stick up for death sentenced people
(if their Black) but know they say he wasn't hard enough

     birdbath:
Stick to the debate Bart!

     bartcop:
You're saying Gore wasn't hard enough?

     birdbath:
BUSH

     bartcop:
There's a word missing somewhere - the NAACP didn't attack Bush
for not being hard enough on blacks

     birdbath:
Conservatives

     bartcop:
Oh, OK

     birdbath:
Hard enough on hate crimes

     birdbath:
putting word in my mouth just like your hero Clinton

     bartcop:
That's my point. It's possible Bush isn't the right-wing ogre
he appears to be, but he's such a spineless pussy, bending
to the cavepeople whenever they compalin

     birdbath:
speaking of that Lets talk about the crowds hero Clinton

     bartcop:
Best president of the last century

     bartcop:
Sorry he didn't get us into a world war, then heroicly save us

     birdbath:
Your (I don't claim him)"illustrious" President. President Clinton,
(who I'll call Sleazeball for sake of accuracy) despite combating
the scandal-of-the-second, manages to waffle out of adversity at
every turn. I simply cannot trust the guy. His foreign investors
either ran off or pleaded the 5th, Whitewater flows freely beneath
his proposed "bridge to the 21st Century", Bubba's Whitehouse
Bed & Breakfast, the insatiable appetite for campaigning,
Paula Jones saw his plumbing. There are too many infractions
to list. Money and women problems seem to be a recurring motif...
can't trust him with either one... or fast food, for that matter.
I think it's VERY scary that people actually voted for him... twice.

     bartcop:
Too many infractions to list?
Take away consexual sex, and the coverup, you got nothing

     bartcop:
What about that Puerto Rican male hooker Reagan killed with a 9-iron?
Reagan should've done time for killing that boy

     birdbath:
Oh please...he could still get disbarred in AK the attornies bring him
to court have never lost an disbarrment case. Looks bad for Slick

     bartcop:
Your hero is a felcher, and should be in prison

     bartcop:
Kreskin, don't explain the future to me, OK?

     bartcop:
You just admitted Clinton could get away from anything,
now you say "We've got him THIS time."

     birdbath:
Admit it this man is a criminal and has it comming,
he could be the first perz to go to prison

     bartcop:
You're angry that he's too smart for the pinheads of the GOP

     bartcop:
ha ha

     bartcop:
I'll admit Clinton sinned, God will punish him when he's dead, right?

     birdbath:
He thinks he is untouchable but he like you will suffer
for the thing you belive in

     bartcop:
Speaking of criminals going to prison, let's talk about the
Bush pardons, that saved RR's ass from prison

     birdbath:
MILITARY

     bartcop:
did you just have a stroke?

     birdbath:
LOL

     bartcop:
Let's talk pardons...

     birdbath:
Who is RR

     bartcop:
Reagan

     bartcop:
Clinton has never been charged with a crime,
but Bush HAD TO pardon RR's guilty ass

     birdbath:
Why would reagon go to prison

     bartcop:
Clinton got a blow job, RR armed BIG terror, but you think God
will be upset with Clinton? Your God's not very smart

     birdbath:
That has yet to be proved

     bartcop:
Why would RR go to prison? That's not the question.
The question is "What crimes did he commit that FORCED Bush to pardon the gang?"

     bartcop:
No, the pardons proved that

     birdbath:
We all know Clinton got a Blow job though

     bartcop:
You don't pardon the innocent BEFORE the trial

     bartcop:
Have you ever had a blow job, Bird?

     birdbath:
He will have no legacy except as the Prez that got a Blow job in the oval office

     bartcop:
I've never sold weapons to Iran, so there's a flaw in your thinking

     birdbath:
He will have a legacy of a perv

     bartcop:
Please address the parons, or would you rather not?

     bartcop:
Bird, have you ever had a blow job?

     birdbath:
I don't know enough about them

     bartcop:
you poor bastard!
No wonder you're so wound up

     birdbath:
I was only 5 when reagon got in office and 16 when he left

     bartcop:
Ignorance is an excuse, I'll grant you that

     birdbath:
oh that was bush

     bartcop:
Since you don't know, I'll tell you

     birdbath:
16 when bush left

     bartcop:
RR illegally sold weapons to Iran, after asking them to keep the
hostages for an extra hundred days to steal the 1980 election
He used that money to arm the contras, which was illegal, too

     bartcop:
But oh, Bill Clinton had sex!

     birdbath:
Yeah and I'm gonna take your word for it

     bartcop:
Jesus Christ, where are your priorities?

     birdbath:
move on please

     bartcop:
I garee, if you need proof that Bush pardoned RR's cabinet
to hide the felonies, we should move on

     birdbath:
I'll have to do some reading on that

     bartcop:
Tell you what, when we're done, I'll post a picture of Weinburger
beaming at a headline that says "Bush pardons six to end trials"

     birdbath:
MILITARY

     bartcop:
What else can we cover?

     birdbath:
what would happen to the Armed Forces without conservatives.
Every poll shows that the military is overwhelmingly Republican.
Indeed, the very thought of using force to facilitate political
policy is anti-liberal. The type of people who believe in peace
through superior firepower (we call them 'hawks') are conservative.

     birdbath:
I know what would happen in an America like that: We conservatives
would grind all you disarmed liberals (can you think of 1 great
left-wing general.....it's difficult, isn't it?) into mulch.
Unless, of course, you Democrats, you land mind banning Democrats,
you pro China Democrats, you pro nuclear test ban treaty Democrats,
you left-wing Beta male Democrats, you relying on the government to
'help people' Democrats, you bottom dwelling pseudo-intellectuals
Democrats, could conceivably frighten us with your battalions of
rubber band shooting lesbians and spitball hurling welfare queens.
When you think of a Gen X liberal, you see a wire frame glasses
wearing, birkenstock wearing, skinny college sissy with a very
precious red ribbon on his shirt and a real aversion to any type
of career that requires rugged individualism. When you think of we
right wing bully boys, you see muscular men that can fight.

     bartcop:
There's an old saying - the strong take from the weak,
and the smart take from the strong

     birdbath:
I'm gonna smoke a cuban after this

     bartcop:
Which gun will you use to smoke the cuban?

     bartcop:
Clinton avoided wars, saving lives. RR and Bush stubled into wars,
and lost many many lives. I like BC's way better

     bartcop:
Clinton gave us peace and prosperity. RR gave us war and recession,
or were you too young to remember?

     birdbath:
There is also another saying,"The heart of the wise inclines to the right,
but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2

     bartcop:
That's bible horseshit
Betty Bowers could dismantle that, but I don't read the bible

     birdbath:
Ah but its true my friend....your scared and with a verse
like that you should be.LOL

     bartcop:
I've been called everything from "Maddog" to "Killer,"
but nobody's ever called me "scared" before

     birdbath:
Okay, so I'm a little closed minded. That's just fine, because the
good lookin' girls end up marrying us. They don't abort (kill) our
babies, and conservative babes end up telling our kids, like I do,
that we can't take them to Disney this year because the liberals take
almost 40% of what we earn so rapists can have color TVs in their prison
cells. Now, I don't want to hear you groaning about that one.

     bartcop:
Are we deteriorating? is the debate ending?

     birdbath:
Your the one who is scared.

     birdbath:
This is more lively than the Bush Gore debate

     bartcop:
Don't get me wrong, I'll fight, but not die for, your freedom to
believe in any insane religious system you want

     bartcop:
I see Judy O Christian is watching, I'll bet she'd like a
crack at that Bible quotin' stuff

     birdbath:
then move to another country cause there were many men that
died in our U.S. forces to defend democray and our religious
rights AND if I remeber thats how this country was founded..

     birdbath:
Don't look to the crowd...keep your eyes on me
I'll get Judy later

     bartcop:
No, you have that wrong. Those men died so we'd be FREE to do what
we want with religion. They didn't die so Bush could order federal prayers

     bartcop:
Gens, you there? I think it may be time to open the gates

     bartcop:
I view this debate as an "incomplete success."

     genslab:
maybe

     birdbath:
Bush isn't ordering any prayer orders.!!!!! But we should have the
right to pray before a game or praying before a graduation

     bartcop:
Bird is too liberal to have a good fight, except for the religious insanity...

     birdbath:
PUSSING OUT BARTCOP

     bartcop:
Bird, you have that right - now. What else do you need to pray?

     birdbath:
In closing, Bartcop, I do thank you for this opportunity. You are a
freak of nature who, if given the chance, would implement policies
that would subjigate religious people, oppresse the working man
(oops, 'person') and starve everybody.

     bartcop:
Pussing out? From what?

     bartcop:
Your pummeling?

     bartcop:
ha ha

     bartcop:
You admit you're too young to know what RR did, so you have no
reference to compare Clinton's "crimes" to REAL crimes

     birdbath:
So, the next time someone voices an opinion that is diametrically
opposed to yours (and sorry if I'm using words that are too big,
remember, I'm a right wing meany), how 'bout whippin' out some
of that good 'ol tolerance I'm told you liberals are so full of.

     birdbath:
LONG LIVE THE VAST RIGHT WING

     bartcop:
Bird, you're a liberal, posing as a ditto-monkey

     birdbath:
WHAT ABOUT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION??

     birdbath:
We have a lot more to talk about
What about your homo friends

     bartcop:
AA forces those who are scared of blacks to actually meet
some and find out they're not all wearing bones in their noses

     birdbath:
Affirmative Action is wrong. I vehemently oppose "special treatment".
Race, sex, gender, and/or sexual CHOICE should never play a factor
in a person's advancement, hiring, firing, or acceptance. Affirmative
Action focuses on race and implies inherent inferiority of the
minorities it supposedly "helps". Minorities do not need this brand
of "help". Successful minorities don't dwell in victimhood, they're
too busy pursuing and achieving excellence. Dr. Martin Luther King,
the late, renowned civil rights leader, emphasized that merit, not race,
is important.

     bartcop:
My homo friends?

     bartcop:
If AA is wrong, explain Clarence Thomas

     bartcop:
Gens, you might as well open it up.

     birdbath:
I believe homosexuality/bisexuality is a sin. I also believe a
person makes a choice to become a homosexual/bisexual. I dont believe
someone can be born homosexual/bisexual and have yet to see any studies
to prove otherwise (the studies that claim people are born
Homosexual/Bisexual were funded by Homosexual activist groups)

     bartcop:
I'd score it 10-8, but I''m prejudiced

     birdbath:
BARTCOP your coping out!

     birdbath:
I'm gonna smoke my Cuban

     birdbath:
BARTCOP WE NEED TO HAVE DEBATE ON RELIGION SOON

     bartcop:
Bird - deal

     birdbath:
Good

     bartcop:
I'm not certain this is worth saving, but I might need a copy if Bird claims victory

     birdbath:
I will definatley claim victory
 
 

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