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Bartcop/Hillary, Iran worries & my sympathy
Hi Bart - FWIW you have my sympathy. You're a
great blogger for the Lib/Prog/Democratic party side of issues
but it looks like you've had a VERY hard time
getting the Liberal &/or Progressive &/or Democratic Party people
to agree with you or get together on things.
People should agree with me more because I'm usually right.
You've recently been critiqued heavily for being
worried about Iran.
I'm even a little surprised you haven't published
many if any e-mails calling you something like a "Palin-head"
because of her "Bomb Iran" answer to a question
about what Obama could do to get her sympathy.
I never suggested we bomb Iran - I said we should strangle their economy.
One could say that one of THE top rules to being
a Liberal/Progressive &/or Democratic Party person is
"there shall NOT be ANY bloodshed of innocents
associated with any kind of Liberal action, ruling, decision."
I can't tell if you're serious or sarcastic but
I, for one, think a nuclear war is worth preventing.
If we lose some soldiers doing that, I'd hate
it, but if it prevents nulcear war...
Most people agree that innocents shouldn't get killed for any type of decision and fwiw I agree with that.
That's crazy talk.
In any war, innocents will die.
If you're saying "No
war is worth fighting - ever" then you're
not a realist.
There's a HUGE chance that any kind of military
intervention in Iran will cause some innocent bloodshed
and I can definitely see why people argue with
you on that. Iran COULD be another Vietnam just like
Iraq & Afghanistan were/continue to be.
I wish you'd argue with MY points instead of some
imaginary points.
I'm not saying we should invade Iran, let's just
stop (or supress) their flow of oil.
However what should the US do when foreign countries
oppress their own people and might have some
Americans worried about what they might do next
(especially if they see that oppression coming to the US?)
If some country supresses their own people, we
should pressure that country to stop but
we can't put boots on the ground in another country
every time some dictator is a dick.
For example? It looks like Hillary Clinton agrees
with you (a little) on Iran.
She recently said that Iran is on its way to
becoming a military dictatorship:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100215/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_clinton_mideast
DOHA, Qatar – Hillary aid Monday that Iran is
becoming a military dictatorship, a new U.S. accusation
in the midst of rising tensions with Iran over
its nuclear ambitions and crack down on anti-government protesters.
Asked if the U.S. is planning a military attack on Iran, Clinton said "no."
The U.S. is focused on gaining international support
for sanctions "that will be particularly aimed at
those enterprises controlled by the Revolutionary
Guard, which we believe is in effect supplanting the government of Iran,"
she said.
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One of your fellow bloggers Joseph Cannon doesn't
like that:
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-hillary-in-2012-may-not-be-good.html
Hillary is ramping up pressure on Iran, the country
which the neocons have long viewed as the ultimate prize.
You may say that she is doing this only to placate
Obama and his inner circle, and you may be right.
But she is doing it nonetheless, and it's a damned
dangerous course of action.
Dangerous? Compared to what?
Doing nothing and allowing Iran to arm themselves
with nukes?
If my neighbor wants me dead and I know he's going
to buy a gun at 3 PM,
I'd rather fight him ar 2 PM than 4 PM.
America is very good at assassinating people.
So’s Israel.
Why are we wasting time with such sentences?
I notice that neither of them are succesful at
solving the actual problem they’re supposedly trying to address.
Maybe the US should stop copying tactics and
strategies that don’t work.
You haven't stated a position so I have to guess
what it might be:
I think your answer is to let Iran get nukes and if they launch on Israel,
well, that's just Israel's bad luck - which is
suicide and I want no part of it.
Nothing easier than saying, "They're
doing it wrong."
Why not think of a better way BEFORE you
speak?
My point here is you have my sympathy about your
frustration to get everybody in the Lib/Prog/Dem world
to agree on doing anything (even if it isn't
about Iran.) I don't know how you do it week after week,
month after month and year after year but I'm
glad that you do. I've donated money to you in the past
and I'll more than likely do it again in the
future when I can.
Chris
Chris, so what's your bottom line?
Do we let Iran get nukes and hope they're just kidding about Israel?
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