I support  Dean, because I like the  way he has revolutionized politics. He has shown the Democrats
 that it is possible to build a power base with small donors instead of running to the fat  cats
 (and compromising yourself in the process).
 
 I like Dean, too, but we need to send the best guy to fight the BFEE and their fabrication machine.
 

 There has been research done on the fat cat contributors fueling the campaigns of the other candidates,
 including Clark's, and those boys generally get what they pay for. That said, I also have to agree that there
 are rich guys, such as George Soros, who do understand what the issues are, and are on the right side of them.
 But Dean has done more than change the fundraising landscape.

 Nothing to argue with there...
 

 He has also begun "putting his money where his mouth is" by making his donor lists available to other candidates
 in Congressional and senatorial races, and by advertising their campaigns on his web site. He understands that
 things have to change not just at the top, but all the way up and down the ticket, if the Democrats are to become
 an effective force again.
 
 I'm still with you...
 

 I am somewhat disturbed by Clark's ties to the military-industrial establishment that President Eisenhower
 warned about in his farewell address.

 It's my opinion that perception is what enables Clark to beat Bush, and Dean doesn't have that.
 

 I also do not like the perception that Clark seems to project of being "the man on the white horse" for the Democrats.

 What if Clark agrees with me - that a uniform is the only way to get the insanity out of the White House?
 Would it not be his duty to ride in and save America from a monster who never has to face the voters again?
 Wouldn't anything be worth preventing that?

 Think of what that Monkey will do with the Supreme Court!  The crooked geezers who appointed him can retire,
 knowing Bush will install bona-fied, forty year-old Nazis in their stead who will sit on the big bench for the next
 40-50 years - always ruling for the Republicans and always ruling to impeach any elected Democrat..
 

 A fair measure of arrogance and ambition is perhaps inevitable in someone running for the country's top job,
 and maybe we need an arrogant SOB to beat that arrogant SOB, Dumbya.

 I might agree with that...
 

 But I still find myself being put off by the fact that Clark seems to think he can come into this process
 at the 11th hour, and we should all bow to the inevitable.

 For the sake of this argument, the Dems only have these two candidates.  Are you willing to put
 Dean up against Bush as a payback for services rendered like the GOP did for Dole in 1996?
 Between having your man win and getting rid of Bush, which is the higher priority?

 Swear to Koresh - they've already made Dean the "gay marriage" nominee, that's why I can't
 figure out why they destroyed him ten months before the election.

 Sidebar:
 If Dean has a poor showing Tuesday, this debate might be moot.
 After Tuesday, they head south, where Clark and Edwards are expected to rule.
 

 I also felt his statement that he would not accept a spot as the vice-presidential candidate was ill-timed and overbearing,
 with the clear implication that if he didn't get the top spot, he would take his ball and go home.

 I clearly disagree there.
 I can't think of any candidate in the last twenty years who, while still being a viable presidential nominee,
 agreed he'd take whichever job came along. To me, that would scream, "I want to be in politics,
 so gimme a list of positions that are open and I'll take whatever I'm handed."

 
 His loyalty to the Democrats seems shallow and insincere to me, unlike Dean's loyalty of which we already have ample proof.
 
 But again, the goal isn't getting Dean what he rightfully deserves. The goal is losing the Disaster Monkey who has
 semi-destroyed this once-great country.  Suddenly, the Bush media is saying now Bush will have to work to win,
 that it's not an automatic slam-dunk since Dean apparently won't be the nominee.  I think they're serious.
 

 One of my good friends is a Gulf War veteran who has many friends still serving, and the feedback on Clark from these
 folks is not good. When he was Supreme Commander of NATO, the nickname he was known by in Brussels HQ was
 "the Supreme Being."

 
 If they have a specific complaint - they should give us the details so we don't make a mistake.
 And consider:
 If his name was "Bing," they would've called him, "Wesley King" because it kinda rhymes.
 If his name was "Schaad," they would've called him "Wesley God."
 If his name was "Nuwall," they would've called him "Wesley Know it all."
 
 
 He was not liked by subordinates, always a bad sign in a leader, and, according to these folks, was always "kissing up"
 to higher authority. I should add that these remarks come from people who do not like Bush or Rumsfeld.

 Are you saying your military friends are hot for Dean?
 That would surprise me.
 

 According to my friend, their discussions are not about voting for Bush or a Democrat, but which Democrat
 they want. Evidently, photo ops or not, many in the military do feel betrayed and ill-used by this administration,
 and Bush may be in for a nasty shock when those military absentee ballots are opened next November.
 
 That's good news.
 

 For all of these reasons, I support Dean. As for the argument that he is not the right candidate after 9-11, Dean has
 already shown he is willing to take Bush on in the area of defense and national security, and he has done so very effectively.

 It's my opinion 95 percent of all voters are more stupid than you.  When Pinhead strutted his manhood on the Lincoln,
 men and women wet themselves because they're stupid and they're scared and they want John Wayne to save us from
 bin Laden and that's what this election is all about _ Bush playing dress up like John Wayne.
 Clark's uniform could win a debate with Bush.
 

 Unless Bush can manufacture another terrorist incident...

 ha ha
 Wait, ...were you joking or were you serious?
 

 ...Dean will eat his lunch on Iraq, terror, and the domestic issues.

 Well, Gore beat Bush silly in all three debates, but nobody scores a debate fairly, anymore.
 

 Perhaps the best take on Dean came from my veteran friend. "He reminds me of Harry Truman," he said.
 Truman, I should add, is one of his favorite presidents. A high compliment,  indeed.
 (withheld)
 

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