bartcop:
Mr Conservative, why have you been ducking our debate?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
bartcop. when did you put out the invite

  bartcop:
Standing invitation, when are you free?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
i am up for it now bartcop

  bartcop:
I can give you 30 mins till SNL and U2 come on, but that should suffice:)

  KerryW:
you are wasting your time, BC, but feel free

  bartcop:
Kerry, what am I in for? Dodging and ducking?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
you a big bono fan bc

  bartcop:
yep
 

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
where did you get the idea that i have been avoiding you.

  bartcop:
MrC, if gens was here, we could go right after it instead of tracking down the history of the invite

  bartcop:
When are you free for an ass whoopin'

  bartcop:
I'd like a few days to draw a crowd

  Doc_Enola
Or, if everyone would just tone it down, bc and MrC could debate NOW....

  KerryW:
how about we let BC and MrC debate?

  bartcop:
...unless you don't feel up to it...

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
bartcop. i have observed you debate two people here. i would say that you were the victor in each.
don't let that inflate your ego.

  bartcop:
MrC, you seem to want to talk about anything BUT a time to debate, you gonna make me ask a
third, fourth, fifth time?

  rudeboy
just let me get a fresh drink. . .

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
lets go now. i have the time. are you ready

  bartcop:
Let's talk school prayer, bad idea, right?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
fine by me. what is your view

  bartcop:
Wait, I'd hate to make the same mistake 3 times
You DO know what the Bush pardons are, right?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
yes, i am vaguely aware of them. what about school prayer

  bartcop:
I sd "school prayer bad idea, right?" and you want to know what about it?
It's a "yes or no" question.

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
i thought you meant it was a bad idea to bring it up. i think it is up to the local school boards to
decide. there should be guidelines established

  bartcop:
What if the local school board is Jewish and wants to teach "Jesus isn't God?" Ok with you if your kid
learns that?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
bc. please dont condescend to me. i will do my best to keep up with your superior intellect

  bartcop:
Why do you make me ask every question 3 times? Is this what kerry warned me about?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
i think that would violate certain peoples rights. i believe that prayer or meditation is allowable

  bartcop:
So, you agree with me that a moment of silence is OK
but organized prayer is bad, what about abortion?
By the way, that's not very conservative

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
jews teaching that jesus isn't god is not prayer

  bartcop:
When I debated G Gordon Liddy, he took the same dodge,
knowing he was going to get his ass kicked if he answered the question

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
i believe that abortion is the taking of a human life

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
do me a favor and don't editorialize my comments. they stand on their own merits

  bartcop:
Ok, do you believe the government should intrude on family planning decision?
Or are you for smaller government?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
i believe the govt has the right to legislate when it comes to the protection of human life

  bartcop:
So, you're for BIGGER government - why do you use the name Mr Conservative?
I think your name should be Mr Luke Warm

  bartcop:
You're against organized prayer in school and for bigger government
- are there any areas in which you're conservative?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
you have mis-characterized all of my statements. is all you do duck and weave and insult

  bartcop:
Can I ask your age?
 

  mooseandsquirrel:
hi all

  bartcop:
Don't you know a gauntlet when you see one?
When I call you "Luke," you're supposed to say,
"I am NOT Luke, I'm conservative and here's proof!"

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
question for you - where do our rights come from

  bartcop:
I give up - where?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
i don't adhere to your rules bc. how can we debate if you won't be forthcoming.
in your opinion, where do our rights come from

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
why do we have rights

  bartcop:
Asked and answered. You're trying to lay some silly trap, and I'm saying let's get to it
Rights don't come from God, if that's where you're going

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
i have observed you and all you do is lay traps.
my question is straight forward. i have not seen your answer.

  bartcop:
Four times now, we're stuck on this go-nowhere question.
Is this your idea of a stall? If you don't want to answer your own question, let's move on

  bartcop:
What do you WANT me to say - the rule of law?
 

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
if this is to tough, let me approach it another way. if the government says you no longer have a right
to free speech, does that mean that free speech no longer exists for you?

  bartcop:
no
Do I win something?

  bartcop:
I'm asking nuts and bolt questions, you're into abstract philosophy, we're not making any progress

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
then the gov must not possess the ability to grant or withold rights. where does that authority lie

  bartcop:
It's like asking - Why is there air?
Does anyone else have any idea what he wants for an answer?

  KerryW:
I tried for 2 hours

ha ha

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
you nuts and bolts is childish bs.
your philosophy is your guide.
that is where the debate lies

  bartcop:
Ok, OK, I left my decoder ring in my other suit

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
bartcop is too shallow. he has to have help from the gallery.

  bartcop:
MrC, if you get in a courtroom and ask where do rights come from,
the other atty will object and the judge will tell you to knock it off

  bartcop:
We might as well all talk, this didn't work

  bartcop:
It was a nutty question - if the gubment says I can't talk, I'll still talk unless there's a gun on me

  Estab:
If the Government declared free speech illegal, I would still have it unless they could enforce it

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
bartcop, why do you resort to this juvenile crap. you are supposed to be the god of these people.
you can't get into the depths on any subject.

  KerryW:
I spent 2 hours alone with MrC and never got past this point

ha ha

  Estab:
If I am dead, for practical purposes, I am not free

  bartcop:
Kerry, I see what you mean, he's a brick wall

  bartcop:
MrC, do you admit conservatives on radio and TV don't talk like you?

  KerryW:
if he answers, he will be humiliated, so he won't answer

  bartcop:
MrC, if I'm so dense, answer the question - where to rights come from?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
rights come from god. our founders declared in the declaration of independance that we are
endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights

  Estab:
Bart, you know you essentially gave up this debate, right?

  bartcop:
MrC, then why did God forsake China, Cuba, N Korea etc?

  bartcop:
Why did God forsake Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq?

  MrConservative(right wing nut):
bart does not want to debate. when faced with someone other than a dittomonkey he wilts