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Subject: some thoughts about Her
Hi Bart,
I would like to comment on the whole Hillary thing
(Oh my God, he said the word).
I personally am not ready to declare for any
candidate. I don't know what they stand for.
That's OK by me.
All I'm asking is that the Democrats stop attacking
their front-runner.
In my lifetime, there's never been a incumbetn
hated more than Bush.
That gives us a great advantage - if we don't
commit suicide.
I personally think the number one problem in this
country is the effect that corporations and
money have in the running of the country. I
would stand for anyone who would support a
Constitutional Amendment to declare that a corporation
is not an individual and that money
does not equal speech, it is volume. I am not
allowed to mount speakers on my house and
turn the volume up all the way and broadcast
my thoughts to the community, why should
their possesion of all the money allow them to
outscream anyone else?
Scarily, that underlined part sounds like a vote
for Bush.
Now, on to Hillary (Shit, said it again). People
are positioning themselves to support the
candidate of their choice, and Hillary, while
she is the front runner in the Democratic Party,
also posseses huge negative numbers in the Republican
and independant field.
Every time a Democrat tells a lie about her, those
nagatives increase.
Every time a Democrat screams, "harpy
bitch slut" at her, Bush high-fives Rove.
Do we want to win, or do we want to do a victory
dance when she loses?
That will make her more unelectable, not impossible,
but harder.
They will have to work harder to overcome those
negative numbers.
Why do Democrats spend time listing her negatives?
It's the GOP's job to destroy the Democratic
front-runner, not the Democrats'.
Reading this, every sentence feels like a step
away from winning.
She isn't running for President yet, like everyone, so no one knows where she stands on the issues.
She's hardly an unknown - why would you paint
her that way?
When Bush said,
"We must treat the queers with respect,"
the GOP said to themselves,
"He doesn't mean that, he's just playing 'compassionate
conservative' for the middle roaders."
But if She signs on to some lame-ass flag-burning
amendment, we REFUSE to give her the same
benefit of the doubt that the GOP gave Der Monkey.
Why do you think that is? I'm very tired
of being in the suicide party - I'd sure like
to win a victory every 12 years or so.
This is all about perception and their history.
I personallt think that Hillary is more progressive
than Bill is, she is the one who came up with
the health care initiative, and it was too progressive
for Bill, he couldn't embrace it, but it might
well come back in the Hillary presidency, but noone
knows where she stands on that, it hasn't been
talked about.
Would you rather gamble on Clinton's wife or have
more of Bush?
I can't understand why people want to find 5,000
shades of gray in the '08 election.
We're either going to continue the disaster course
or we're going to change.
Will you join me in voting to change the course?
The progressive community is afraid that Hillary
might be as supportive of the corporate stance,
like Bill was. His biggest problem with the Progs
will always be his free tade agreements,
we could care less about his sex life, tell us
how you are screwing us, not who you are screwing.
We are afraid that a corporate friendly administration
will be like a Bush Admin, wilthout the
giggling murderer at the helm. A lot of the Clinton
miracle was built on the dot com boom,
and was not real, but a lot of the Reagan-Bush
I-Bush II economy is buillt on deficit spending.
Dude, why complicate things?
We're either going to stay the course or change.
We don't have 1,000 choices.
We don't even have three choices.
We have TWO, stay the course or change.
Why am I the only one who can see that?
Where am I wrong, and please don't explain "how
things should be."
Things aren't how they "should be," things are
what they are.
I hope that this is somewhat helpful in this whole
discussion.
I hate to see a topic declared taboo, nothing
ever get's settled by not talking about it,
just look at the Bush foreign policy for proof
of that statement.
Hey, you and I can control ourselves in a discussion,
some
many people can't.
Everyone just settle down and discuss rationally
and logically,
and let's wait for some facts before we start
to argue about them.
We're either going to stay the course or we're
not.
What facts might cause you to vote to stay the
course?
Let's find the best candidate we can for 2008,
and in the meantime, work to elect
those people who will pledge to investigate and
where apropriate, prosecute,
those things that we all know are crimes, that
are being committed by this administration.
I have done that will my Rep, David Wu, and am
convinced from his letters
back to my e-mails, is on board for this. That
is what is important at this point.
Keep that hammer swinging, Bart.
Jim.
I'm all for finding the best candidate.
But why do we have to slay our front-runner in the search?
I'm not talking about you, I mean Sirota, Huffington, Doud, Kos and
most bloggers.
Trust me, screaming "She's another Lieberman"
is a vote for Bush.
We're either going to stay the course or we're
not.