From: Pff5
Subject: What Clinton did for the Economy
Bartcop:
I saw your response to a misguided writer regarding
what Clinton did for the
economy. Although I agree with most of
what you write (except the profanity
- but you are easing off that over the years,
too), your answer appeared very
weak to me, as if you were grasping for straws.
My opinion:
1. The major thing that Clinton did was,
against withering right wing
attacks, increase taxes on the wealthy to pay
down the deficit.
2. Using short term bonds to cover the legacy
deficit is part and parcel to
this approach. If you really intend to
pay down the deficit, then you can
get lower interest rates on short term notes,
and thus lower debt financing
costs, without risking much higher interest rates
in the near future.
I became a Clinton supporter early on, and started
investing as much as I
could in the stock market, based on his campaign
promise that he would reduce
the deficit by taxes "on those who did so well
during the 1980s". At the end
of the Reagan/Bush regime, we were under staggering
deficits. The U.S.
government was the major player in borrowing
money - driving up interest
rates. High interest rates choke off economic
expansion, because businesses
expand by borrowing money for equipment, facilities,
etc. Reagan/Bush had
choked off the economy.
This was originally disguised in the early 80s,
because another great drag on
the economy, imported oil prices, had declined
dramatically (from >$45/bbl to
<$15/bbl). Once this drag had been removed,
the economy started to expand.
But Reagan/Bush pissed that away by cutting taxes
on the wealthy and creating
huge deficits. The deficits were also caused
by an incredible increase in
military spending - I have no problem with that,
AS LONG AS IT IS PAID FOR IN
TAXES.
Another important aspect of Clinton's approach
was to put the increase
primarily on the upper income people. Taxing
the middle class or below is
another way to choke off an economy that relies
primarily on consumer
spending. For example, increasing the social
security tax rate (which Reagan
did as his "solution" to social security), which
is imposed only up to a
certain limit ($80K in 2001) is incredibly bad
for a consumer economy,
because it is a regressive tax (rich people,
and even I, pay less of their
income as a percentage than those below $80K).
The rebound from the oil recession could not disguise
the ever increasing
debt forever, leading to the Bush recession.
There was also a Reagan
recession immediately after the tax reduction,
because oil prices did not
collapse until 1982. Then Clinton came
along, removed the stress that
deficits were putting on the economy, without
choking down the demand side
(which higher taxes on the middle class would
have caused), and the economy
bloomed (well, DUH!!!).
Reagan got the government out of rich peoples
pockets, and put the government
into our credit markets.
Clinton got the government out of our credit markets.
Businesses can't expand when credit is tight.
Clinton got the government off the back of business
borrowing, and the
economy bloomed.
Most importantly, SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS IS A CRAP
THEORY.
As an aside, with respect to my statement about
starting to invest in stocks
as much as I could starting in 1982, I have done
very well. If Limbaugh
REALLY believed that Clinton's tax increase was
going to cause a recession,
he should have invested in fixed interest bonds,
because these increase in
value during downturns. However, in hindsight,
one can see that that would
have been the worst route to take, as Greenspan
increased interest rates
several times from 1992 to 1994 to keep the Clinton
economy from expanding
too fast. (I can only hope that Limbaugh
made this stupid mistake.) Fixed
rate bonds were one of the worst investments
during Clinton's first term.
I should also mention that it was Dr. Laura Tyson
on the Clinton team who was
the principal advocate of this approach.
She's back to being a professor of
economics some where in California. I don't
think she teaches supply side
theory. The only place that should be taught
is at "universities" that also
teach creationism rather than evolution, and
support the flat Earth theory.
Every once and awhile, you can see her testifying
to Congress on C-SPAN.