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Does Tuesday's timeline add up?
Excerpt:
One of the things we asked is: how could
the so-called third plane stay in the air, hijacked,
for almost an hour after two other hijacked
planes had struck the WTC Towers,
and not be seen and intercepted by U.S.
air defense forces?
How could it fly to the Midwest, turn around
and fly back to Washington, to the Pentagon, undisturbed?
From: jcolwel2@ford.com
Subject: Hello, Old Buddy
I'm in complete agreement with your call for military
force.
I know there was a lot of disagreement over Vietnam;
Panama and Desert Storm
also had people who questioned the wisdom of
military force.
When people objected to those conflicts, one of
the things they used to say was,
"It's not as if we're being attacked."
Well now we are.
I know that your use of the expression "glass
them" is meant to indicate your level of anger and resolve.
I'm sure you don't mean it.
I have a lot of opinions about this attack vis-à-vis
partisan politics, and after
we kill the enemy I'm gonna express those opinions.
But unity is paramount now.
There is one opinion I have, however, that I
think should be stated now because I think it can help now.
We need to channel the resources we've been dedicating
to the war on drugs into the war against
America's enemies. We shouldn't be scrambling
to develop intelligence resources when we have
all those DEA agents who would love to investigate
real criminals, and we shouldn't be using our
local cops to bust the kids in the park while
essential facilities are underguarded.
Joe, I really did mean "glass them" when we're talking about the guilty.
I think I was misunderstood when I said "I liked the kind of talk"
I was hearing about making governments and countries disappear.
I'm not eager to blow Afghanistan off the map, but if they refuse to
hand over bin Laden,
the Taliban should be forced out of power by our jets, if necessary.
...and that talk about using resources from the war on drugs won't fly.
It makes too much sense.
BartCop's Bloodlust
From: rb.ham@home.com
Subject: I'm sane again
Bc
Okay, here's the deal. I don't actually believe
100 percent in the New World Order Conspiracy theory.
It just seems so impossibly large. Too many things
could go wrong, etc. All conspiracies are easy to prove
when you don't have the evidence to say you're
wrong. I should maybe take a Prozac? Sick joke.
I'm just advocating a measured, rational response.
Don't fly off the handle. Keep your head on straight.
What if this heinous act was committed with the
active help of the Chinese? Eh?
Remember, we 'accidentally' "glassed" their embassy
in Belgrade. Who knows?
Whoever did this wants the reaction now being
touted by "hawks".
They want a long, drawn out war. For their own
interests.
Or, they may also be actively attempting to set
off a nuclear exchange with whomever - (Pakistan, China?).
I don't know how it works with Islamic Fundamentalists
but with Christian Fundamentalists it's the idea of
a "rapture" where the physical world ends with
"Armageddon" and a new "spiritual" world begins.
Kingdom Come. Where only those who are "pure"
will walk on the right hand side of the Lord himself.
Here's the thing. President Bush has said that
Jesus Christ was his favourite political philosopher.
Dear President Bush, what would Jesus do?
Praying I Worry Too Much
RB Ham
Masters of War
From: doug_black@myrealbox.com
Subject: Bomb Afghanistan Back to the Stone Age??
I don't recall whether I've seen reference to
this commentary on your site.
It terrifies me to think that our attempts to
retaliate against last Tuesday's
terrorist attacks might play right into bin Laden's
hands.
I want vengeance, but there must be a way
to get it without sparking WWIII.
Doug
I don't mean to attack you, Doug, but I hate it when people say, "attacking
bin Laden plays into his hands."
If he can get people to follow that advice, he'll never have to worry
about anything again.
I keep saying it, but nobody's hearing it:
The war has already started.
How big will it get?
Don't know, but we can't be afraid to get in a fight because it might
get big.
In a way, this whole country is on Flight 93.
We can either fight or we can let them fly us into a tall building.
I say we fight.
According to Dave and Jay are back tonight!
There is tons of stuff over there.
The Vidiot has mountains of info on new TV shows, too.
Don't you want to get involved?
E-mail Marty and tell her which shows you want to review for
us.
Toward
the Brink
By Robert Parry, for my money, the best writer
on the Internet
September 17, 2001
Excerpt:
One of the chief reasons that this history
has been “lost” is the powerful influence that
conservatives exercise over today's U.S.
news media, both directly through conservative outlets,
such as Fox News and the Washington Times,
and indirectly by going after mainstream journalists
who report facts that put Ronald Reagan
in a bad light. Many working journalists remain frightened
of being labeled a "liberal" or a "blame-America-firster,"
in Jeane Kirkpatrick's famous formulation.
The danger this represents to an informed
U.S. policy has been compounded by the laziness of other
journalists who have found it easier and
safer to obsess about people’s sex lives and other trivial issues.
Over the past eight years or more, the
U.S. news media has trumpeted relatively minor “Clinton scandals,”
such as the Whitewater real estate deal,
the Travel Office firings, the Paula Jones sexual harassment claims,
and the Monica Lewinsky case.
An
attack on freedom, democracy, responsibility, and reason
by James Higdon
From: monceaux@mail.ev1.net
Subject: Liberal America Needs To Sack Up
BartCop:
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, and I'm pissed
off and embarrassed.
I'm pissed off at these a-holes who think we're
an easy target and who think they can ruin my America.
I think its imperative to take action and for
it to be swift and effective.
But I'm embarrassed to be a liberal right now.
What happened to liberalism? When did we all become pussies?
If this isn't the time for war, if this isn't
the time to defend ourselves and our beliefs, then there will never be
a time to do it. We might as well pack
it up and move to Switzerland.
I understand the belief in not over-using the
military, and I understand not wanting to get into conflicts that
seem petty. But dammit, this is "big time"
and if we don't respond, we're no worse than 1940's France.
Here in Houston, we've got trees on the sidewalks,
and I hope we didn't plant them so that terrorists can
march in the shade.
As a proud liberal and someone who considers himself
very patriotic, my fellow progressives embarrass me.
THIS is the reason why the right can get away
with calling us commies and not wanting to protect freedom.
THIS is why they are so effective at calling
out our patriotism. If we can't stand up and fight now, I have no hope
for the liberal cause in the future. If we pack
up now, we're a defeated, dehumanized group, and I don't want
any part of that America. If liberals don't fight
back now, there's no hope for a progressive future.
Ryan Monceaux
Ryan, I wish a few more Democrats were willing to fight.
Democrats were afraid to fight during the election, afraid to fight
in Florida,
afraid to fight the illegal idiot who stole his way into power after
the election
and afraid to defend their country when attacked.
"If we fight back, a war might break out..."
...as though we don't have a war on our hands right now.
Want to
Win - Think Before You Lash Out
by David Friedrichs
When will President Bush denounce the hate-filled rhetoric from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson?
Or does Bush agree that "we probably deserved this?"
Or maybe Bush disagrees with Falwell and Robertson, but he needs
their money,
so maybe he won't condemn them for saying "we
probably deserved this."
From a Website
As Fox New Channel beats the drums of war in this
nation's hour of crisis, I thought it would be
a fitting tribute to honor all of the Fox All-Stars
who sacrificed for us in our Armed Forces.
So I visited the foxnews.com to ensure that I
didn't overlook a single one of these martial heroes.
Imagine my surprise at what I found.
Bill O'Reilly? No military
service. But he was a po' blue collar,
working class boy during the Vietnam war. How
could that be?
Brit Hume? Missing in action.
Tony Snow? Call him Yellow Snow.
Sean Hannity? Wore a dress during Lebanon and Desert Storm.
Fred Barnes? Left the foxholes to the atheists.
David Asman? Call him Candy-ass man.
Shepard Smith? Couldn't find an enemy comprised of unarmed pedestrians.
Newt Gingrich? His period kept him from enlisting.
Jim Pinkerton? Don't ask.
John Gibson,
Brian Kilmeade,
Mort Kondracke,
John Fund and
William Kristol?
A veritable platoon-load of pussies.
Not a single one lists military service on his
bio.
These are the men who want to send your sons
and brothers off to war.
FOX should change its name to CNN - The Chickenhawk
News Network
They have lots of tasty recipes over there, such as Peach Cobbler
To Die For!
We're also going to ask Julie Hiatt Steele to contribute some
recipes.
It'll be like going to Julie's for supper!
Since noon, when I published today's Part 1, a fellow here at
work died at his desk.
I called 911 and gave him mouth-to-mouth and CPR until the ambulance
arrived.
Odds are he won't make it, but the EMT's got him a slight pulse
by the time they left with him.
If he lives 48 hours, they'll try to get over the brain damage
hurdle next.
Read the Previous Issue
It had everything.
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bartcop.com
Thanks for the
fumble, Dude.