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"Were Obama to win the Democratic nomination, could he win the national election?
I'm constantly surprised by Republicans I meet who really like Obama. I think he has
great cross-over potential for picking up Republican votes. But, there are some potential
potential hurdles. To what degree will Obama's race be a problem with some voters?
And does Obama, or his team, have the experience to take on the GOP attack machine?
Just look what the Republicans did to John Kerry. Say what you will about Hillary,
but her people know how to fight. Having said that, Obama seems to be besting Hillary,
or at least starting to, so perhaps he knows something she doesn't."
     -- John Aravosis,     Link

 

Republicans "like" Obama because they want to run against him.
For them, what could be better than running against,
"an unqualified, untested black Muslim named Hussein?"

BTW, what committees is Obama on, anyone know?

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Can the Left move on from Clintonismo?
  Yes, we can move on from victory like we did in 2000

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 Excerpt:
The biggest surprise of the election season so far is Hillary's low poll numbers among
Democrat voters. The same liberal media that were deaf, dumb and blind to eight years
of sleaze, from Whitewater to White House furniture (which was carted off at the very end),
allowed nothing to penetrae the Left's love for Bill and Hillary. After eight years of co-presidency,
Hillary became an instant resident of New York State, and ran for the US Senate, dropping
big falsehoods ("I've always been a Yankee fan") to the passionate approval of the True Believers.

And now, just as Hillary is making her run for the White House, Democrats are hesitating.

What a liar she is!
Everyone knows it's impossible to like the Yankess, so what's she trying to prove?

We can't have anymore "sleaze" like we had in the 90s. Instead, we want the war,
death, torture and rape that Bush brought us in 2001. Oh, and screw the Constitution.

I'd much rather count dead soldiers than blowjobs, how about you?
(That's sarcasm for the braindeads who will quote me)

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A Crude War of Revenge
 
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The United States is on its way to losing the war in Afghanistan. The eventual defeat will be
political not military. Public sentiment is shifting in Europe. The people have had enough.
They want to get out. When European troops withdrawal from Afghanistan; NATO will
gradually unravel and the Transatlantic Alliance will collapse. That will be a disaster for
America. The US will again be isolated by two great oceans. But not by choice. America's
days as an empire will be over.

That's why the US perseveres in Afghanistan even though there is nothing to gain. Pipelines
corridors will continue to be blocked by enemy fighters for the foreseeable future. The guerrilla
war will intensify. American fatalities will mount. Political opposition at home will grow.

Think how different history might've been if Bush had kept his word.

When the whole world was with us, if Bush had gone after Osama, we probably would've
captured or killed him in 2002 or 2003, but the little boy wanted to steal that oil, instead.

Now it's 2007, we're broke, defeated on the battlefield and everbody hates us.

And al Qaeda is bigger than ever, thanks to the greed of those dirty Bush bastards.

The good news?
Bush managed to steal up to $300M every day that soldiers were dying.

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Congress must fund troops in Iraq
   by Senator Kissyface and Senator Suckup

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 Excerpt:
Having spent much of the past year mired in legislative trench warfare over Iraq,
advocates in Congress seeking a mandatory withdrawal of troops are now refusing
to pass funding for our forces deployed in Iraq or Afghanistan. For Congress to fail
to provide the funds needed by our soldiers in the field is inexcusable under any
circumstances -- but it is especially disappointing right now, coming at the very
moment when Gen. David Petraeus and his troops are achieving the kind of progress
in Iraq that few would have dared imagine possible just a few months ago.

We recently traveled to Iraq, where we saw and heard firsthand about the remarkable
transformation that our brave men and women in uniform have succeeded in bringing
about this year...Simply put: a year ago, al-Qaida was winning in Iraq. Now we are.

"Where we are" is we don't trust you.
You've lied and lied and lied about "We are winning" all along.
Now you say we should trust you and believe you? After 5 years of lies?

maybe if you'd told the truth sometimes we could trust you now.
But you've done nothing but lie so we can't trust you now.

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Subject: Worst President Ever refrigerator magnets

Hey Bart!

I had a guy come into my place last night and buy 50 WPE magnets.
When I asked him what he was going to do with so many WPE magnets
he said he's going to enclose them in his Christmas cards.

Maybe you should remind your readers about that while there's still time for Christmas
Hope all is well!

Jerry

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Jerry, thanks for that.

WPE Christmas magnets can be purchased here.

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Subject: Waco

Emotions aside, the facts of Waco are that nearly a hundred people (many of them children)
died hideously during a media sideshow event focused on a massed military exercise whose
sole legal purpose was to serve a misdemeanor warrant on David Koresh.

Local law enforcement (who were on cordial terms with Koresh and the other members of
his community) could have served that warrant without risk during one of Koresh's many trips
into town. I don't believe that anyone can reasonably argue that burning children alive after
teargassing them with tanks is a good way to save them from abuse.

Reminds me of the Viet Nam illogic about destroying a village in order to "save" it.
The Gov'mint wanted to send a message to people who isolate and arm themselves with
an eye toward existing outside their authority. Koresh was officially charged with a
misdemeanor; the "unofficial" charge was a capital crime; pissing off the Man.

There is simply no way that you can look at the facts of the events in Waco and see them
as anything other than organized mass murder. There's a film about the massacre called,
"Waco: The Rules of Engagement." I recommend it. It really does boil down to this;
nearly a hundred people, many of them children, died during a botched attempt to
serve a misdemeanor warrant on a man who could have been approached safely and
easily when he was alone. And that is the kindest way you can put it.
 Lucian

Lucian, I don't think you're looking at Waco with a clear head.
Those kids died because Koresh was a crazy bastard, not because of anything the government did.

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Quotes

"Huckabee says he knows the trick to beating Hillary. It's the experience of taking on
the Clinton political machine back home in Arkansas, where he was governor for more
than a decade. "That means something," he tells us. "To do that as a Republican in a
very Democrat state that had been dominated by their political machinery is even more
significant than playing against it in the national realm," he says. The lesson of those battles:
"They are never going to make the same mistake twice. They are going to be ruthless."
      -- Paul Bedard,    Link

Is it OK for a religious man to lie in a political campaign?
When Huckabee was kicking all this Clinton ass, they were in washington DC, remember?

Ken Starr found some dirt on Arkansas Governor Jim Guy Tucker, and Huckabee followed
Tucker into the Governor's Mansion, and he calls that beating the Clinton machine?

Sorry, Mike, it doesn't work that way, but I'm curious:
Does your God forgive you for lying if you're trying to gain great power?

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Why I Hate the Clintons
 by Arianna Huffington

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 Excerpt:
I'm hearing that Hillary is ready to kill Bill. (I would bet that she made that up)
But it has nothing to do with his roving eye -- and everything to do with his Rovian lie.

By claiming that he had "opposed Iraq from the beginning" -- when the record clearly shows otherwise
-- he reminds usthat the Clintons have frequently had an on-and-off relationship with the truth.

I didn't know Bill's position on the Iraq war, so I'm guessing mosty people didn't.
But that doesn't stop them from fabricating his position, then attacking it.

When you click on Arianna's "the record clearly shows" is doesn't,
but why let the facts get in the way of a perfectly useful slur?
Let's review Arianna's examples:

June 23, 2004 (CNN)
"I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though
I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over."

Does that say, "Put ground troops in Baghdad and have them go door-to-door?"

May 18, 2003 (Speech: Remarks at Tougaloo College Commencement)
"I supported the President when he asked the Congress for authority to stand up against WMDs."

Does that say, "Put ground troops in Baghdad and have them go door-to-door?"

March 18, 2003 (Guardian)
"...if we leave Iraq with chemical and biological weapons, after 12 years of defiance,
there is a considerable risk that one day these weapons will fall into the wrong hands
and put many more lives at risk than will be lost in overthrowing Saddam."

Does that say, "Put ground troops in Baghdad and have them go door-to-door?"

February 17, 1998 (CNN)
"There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq. His regime threatens
the safety of his people, the stability of his region and the security of all the rest of us."

Does that say, "Put ground troops in Baghdad and have them go door-to-door?"

No, none of that does, and you can be sure every Clinton-hater in America was scouring
Old quotes to "prove" Clinton lied - but this is the best they could come up with.

The closest they could get was,
"That's why I supported the Iraq thing. There was a lot of stuff unaccounted for."

"The Iran thing?" That's what they're basing their charges on?
He could've meant anything by that, but hey, when you're slurring a Clinton, close is good enough.

They can't find any evidence that Bill supported a long ground war with troops in Baghdad,
so they take whatever quotes they can find and hope you read into them what they read into them
and hope the media follows like lemmings, which, of course, they did.

Now it's accepted nationwide that Bill is a bald-faced liar when the FACTS back him up.

If we lose out best fighter, if we lose the 2008 election, I'm going to blame the Clinton-haters.
If you want a Republican more than you want Hillary, just come out and say that, but don't come
whining to me in January 2009 when some Fascist dog is screaming "We need more Gitmos!"

If Hillary fails to get the nomination, that'll be great news for me, but what will happen
to America and the world if the death and destruction of Bush Fascism continues?

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Subject: Trent Lott's (R-Gay) brother-in-law

Bart,

There is a lot of speculation on why Trent Lott is retiring. While the K Street connection is
probably a good reason, there is also something that is being ignored by the press.

Dickie Roberts, Lott's brother in law, was indicted this last week on bribery charges related to
State Farm Insurance legal fees over Katrina. This involves a 50K bribe and 26 million in legal fees.
This happened two days after Lott's announcement.

I wonder if Lott's retirement has anything to do with this?
What's going to happen when they dig into this story?
You know, if they dig into this story.

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071202/COL0412/712020329/1171/OPINION

http://www.sunherald.com/199/story/220502.html

http://www.djournal.com/pages/story.asp?ID=260318&pub=1&div=Opinion

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119638569855608860.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

john
Chicago.

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Quotes

"Go through the history of time. During the Salem witch hunt, the liberals thought
there was no such thing as witches, and the conservative view was ‘They’re witches
and they all have to die.’ I don’t argue with conservatives over morality. I don’t
preach morality, certainly, but I won’t be told that liberal is immoral."
    --  George Clooney in Rolling Stone,    Link

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Subject: Guns

Bart a gun and a seatbelt are the same - when you realize you need one its too late to get one.

The IGF (ignorance greed fear) crowd is full of VOTERS
that fear the Dems are going to take away their guns.

This is a big issue with many people who live in the redneck ghetto out where I'm at.
Take care
Al the Pillar

Al, good one, but maybe a better metaphor is insurance.
When I talk guns with people, they usually go to "How often do you have a break in?"

To me, that sounds like, "How often are you in a wreck and total your car?"

The gun haters will buy car insurance to replace a car,
but they won't buy a gun to save the lives of their family?

Seems odd, but if you live in an apartment building with 500 other people
and a beat cop is always a scream away, it might make some sense.

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Vulgar Pigboy Quotes

"This is an AP story, and it's from December 1st: (The NH hostage crisis)
'A regal looking Hillary Clinton strolled out of her Washington home,
the picture of calm in the face of crisis.' This made me want to puke."
      -- the vulgar Pigboy, upset that they noticed Hillary was calm in the bomb scare

Oh, but let's hear AGAIN, about how great Saint Rudy was on 9-11, and how Saint Bush
grabbed a bullhorn to say, "The people who knocked down these buildings will hear from
all of us soon," which he then forgot about so he could invade Iraq and steal their oil.

"If I don't know it, it's not worth knowing. And if I haven't heard about it,
it's not worth hearing about. And if I don't know it, then there is no knowledge."
       -- the child-molesting millionaire, ravaged by syphilitic fever

"What is Maureen Dowd unhappy about?' Actually, the way to frame that question is:
'What is she happy about?' That would take much less time to answer."
       -- Rush, who's right twice a day

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Subject: my Dad

Bart, I was going to write you about the OU/WVU match-up until I saw the “My Dad” post.
My heart is aching for Robert. No e-mail addy, so I’ll have to rely on you
to please let him know that others know a little of his pain.

I lost my WW II vet father on February 1 of this year. It doesn’t seem to be getting any easier.
It just keeps hurting. Like Robert, I was there with my father at the end after my wife and I
(mostly my wife) cared for him for his last few years..

A million anguished things go through your head; you recall every harsh word that every passed your lips,
More than that, though, you remember the happy times and it’s their absence that cuts the deepest.
My father was the biggest WVU fan I’ve ever known. This whole football season has seemed somehow
diminished by his absence. Thanksgiving sucked because he wasn’t there to taste the dinner I was fixing
along the way, like he’d always done before.

I can barely stand the thought of Christmas, and my kids are talking about Christmas “without Grandfather.”
None of this is meant in any way to compare or contrast with Robert’s pain.
It’s more in the way of a hug. If you’d let him know, I’d sincerely appreciate it.
  Bob

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Subject: Don Imus

Dear Imus,

Thanks for guest blogging at bartcop.com

Greetings,
Cerbeagle

So, when I asked what was racist about the graphic, you had a chance to explain
but instead, you thought it would be better to call me a racist in a drive-by slurring.

That's the best you got?

Why have a conversation like adults when you can be a weenie, instead?

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Subject: Driving Miss Daisy

Bart,

You should see Driving Miss Daisy. Fine film.
If you’d seen it, you would understand why some thought that toon was, if not racist,
at least in poor taste and not flattering to HRC. Or Obama for that matter.
It would take too long to explain, so I recommend you rent it. Worth the effort.

Not sure if Mrs Bart has seen it, but if you watch it together,
make sure there is lots of Kleenex available. ;-)
   ducks

ducks, thanks for that, but we don't do "Kleenex" movies.

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Debra Lafave arrested today
Our favorite teacher did a bad, bad thing

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According to records with the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, Debra Lafave
was arrested today for violating her probation. The violation listed says she talked to
a coworker who was 17 years old while at work at a pizza parlor, on various occasions.

OMG!
She spoke to a 17 year old girl?

We need to string her up before she talks to anyone else!
That poor teenage girl, can we get her couseling for her trauma?
How can we, the United States, allow illegal talking?

BTW, shouldn't we re-arrest Paris Hilton?
She's probably been speaking, too!

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