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Firefighters
by Eric R. Theiner
From: sea_boy11@yahoo.com
Subject: Debate Fraud
Bart, you wrote:
>>I've been looking for a Freeper to post a regularcolumn on my page
>>but I can't find anybody willing to take the job.
Bullshit. I've searched back and back thru
your issues and
I can't find anywhere where you have even
mentioned this before.
Steve, thanks for the timely reply.
The reason you didn't see that challenge in past issues is because
it's made by e-mail.
Whenever I run into a critic, I offer them a forum to contrast myself
with Rush, Bush, Hannity etc.
>>The left (at least BartCop) can withstand any verbal assault, but
the right (Rush, Bush, Hannity)
>>hide behind call screeners and spokesmen.
Again, Bullshit. You hide behind email. I wrote
to you before and you responded with
>>"Steve, good e-mail, will answer on the page,"
That's very possible, and I'm sorry I didn't remember you..
I get 200-300 e-mails a day. When I can't update the page right
away
I e-mail the message to myself so it'll come back up, but sometimes
it gets buried again.
Reminder:
If I screw you on some deal or fail to live up to something that
I promised, you can always alert
the others to what a fraud I am in the forums. Unlike Rush,
Bush and Hannity, I LOOK for debate
instead of running away and hiding.
You didn't print anything. You are using a
fake name and printing only the emails you want.
Well, of course, that is fine, it's your website,
but you can't lie that you are not hiding.
As a rule, I print every negative e-mail that comes in.
I will print this as proof.
>>Prove me wrong, let's debate.
>>I have a place when only you and I can post live, or we could do
it at a place you suggest.
I'll debate you on any topic you wish. But
let's do it by email - I've read some of your past transcripts
of live 'debates' and they are dumb beyond
belief. It's one person answering the last question while
you move on to the next...no cohesion, no
structure, no logic.
That's partly true, and you're reading the cleaned up versions!
Sure, we could debate by e-mail, but that takes days/weeks, plus, by
the time you answer my rebuttal
of your rebuttal that began a week ago, it's damn hard to follow. Last
time I tried that with a leftie
and it took three colors of ink and two fonts to distinguish what was
what that I got a headache.
Maybe you'd consider calling in to BartCop Radio Live?
>Or - is it easier to make false claims, then hide?
Same question to you BC.
Yours,
Steve.
Steve, your note was nicer than most.
Thanks, let me print this, and I'll attempt to contact you
when the radio thing gets off the ground.
Mexican
Immigration: One Man's Story
You Damn Liberals, by Pete Hisey
Impeachment
Manager Confirmed as New DEA Chief
The pink tutu Democrats bend over again.
"Whatever Mr Rove wants," one was
heard to say.
Asa Hutchinson, one of the top zipper boys in the Clinton Cock
Hunt, has won the hearts of the
Senate Democrats to be confirmed as leader of the Drug Enforcement
Administration.
"I am thrilled that the Senate had given
its consent to my nomination," Hutchinson, (R-Whore)
said after the 98-1 voice vote by the Democratic-controlled Senate.
"This is a moment of great pride for
me," said Sen. Tim Hutchinson, (R-Cheatsonwife),
brother of the cock-hunting congressman.
Clinton was impeached by a gaggle of revenge-minded pricks on
two articles of perjury and
obstruction of justice. The Senate voted to acquit the president
in February 1990.
Hutchinson, a graduate of Bob Jones (R-Priests have tails) Univeristy
is serving his third term
from an all-white Republican district in northwest Arkansas.
Hutchison's plans to fight drugs?
"More God, more prisons and less education," he told reporters working for Karl Rove.
From: rb.ham@home.com
Subject: Lawrence Walsh's Last Battle
Bc,
I have to know. Why aren't Americans
marching in the streets demanding the release
of the Reagan papers? Good Lord, people, the
despicable Elliot Abrams already has a
head start in 'cleansing' them. I
think you should dedicate a page to pursue the truth and
demand the release of the papers. And to
insure Lawrence Walsh's vindication.
The Iran/Contra page. With links to sites and
info regarding what, after all, was a real crime.
RB Ham
Below is a link to a good article on Lawrence Walsh's last battle.
Excerpt:
The investigation has been dragging on for almost
seven years; Bill Clinton is the third President
to sit in the Oval Office since the Government
began this case against itself. The defendants' primary
strategy -- delay, delay and delay -- has had
its effect. The country was once riveted by the televised
images of the Iran-contra defendants testifying
before Congress -- a series of hearings that Norman Mailer
once said was "more addictive than watching cartoons."
Now the public has all but lost interest in the
scandal, which seems to have receded into a mere
historical curiosity, rather than the frontal assault on
the Constitution it once represented.
http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/06/29/reviews/iran-profile.html
RB, Karl Rove and the networks have decided if Clinton's zipper
isn't involved,
it can't be a crime so it's not worthy of mention in the media.
If somebody wants to put together an Iran-Contra page, I'll link
to it or publish it
but I'm the wrong guy to undertake such a time-consuming endeavor.
VCR Alert
From: genslab@genslab.com
BC
just wanna remind you about (BartCop regular)
GrannyC's VCR alert.
Here are the pertinent facts:
Seems, about 5 years ago Grannyc rescued a 15
year old grandson, Jarret
Reid, from the clutches of the Pennsylvania snow
and returned him to
California to participate in his radical behaviour,
without upsetting his
schooling. Though his parents and siblings miss
him dearly and his antics
keep Grannyc on her toes, the move has been a
good one, for Jarret anyway.
Jarret is an EXTREME sports kid. The tall ramps,
the big dirt jumps, and
the wild waves. At 20 he is still Granny's kid,
but he does stunt work for
Disney, Nickleodian, and CBS. Well, some folks
at Guinness World Records,
kept hearing about one of his stunts and contacted
the family. A challenge
was given and Jarret took them on.
Guinness film crew spent a day with Grannyc, her
spouse, and grandkids.
Then the film crew spent a day at a local skate
park with the grandkids.
Then the challenge. Jarret, who rides a little
RAZOR SCOOTER comes
down a ramp, then up a short ramp and does a
back-flip.
A preview can be seen at: www.kickn-it.com
The 10 minute segment (that took 3 days of filming)
may show Grannyc in her rocker.
But it will show Jarret meeting the challenge
and making a place in Guinness Book of World Records,
as the FIRST PERSON to ever do a BACK FLIP on
a SCOOTER. The show will air as
GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS,
August, 2nd, 2001, Thursday evening at 8:00pm
(according to FOX PRIME TIME), it should be right
after the Simpsons.
From: David.M.Carter@wcom.com
Subject: can anybody explain Nader in two paragraphs?
Sure...
The Democrats take dirty money just like the Republicans.
Clinton signed welfare reform, bombed Iraq, and
generally behaved like a pro-choice Republican.
Some of the biggest crooks and corporate lapdogs
in politics are Democrats. Al Gore is hypocrite.
Government by Democrats looks a lot like government
by Republicans, except they like to throw
a bone to the left every now and then to keep
them showing up at the voting booth, so they can keep
collecting their bribes..er...campaign
contributions.
Let's try this using a ruler.
Let's say Ralph is at the beginning of the ruler,
at marker zero.
If I understand correctly, Gore was maybe four
inches to the right, and Bush is what, seven inches to the right?
(In my mind, it's more like three and nine, but
I'm trying to be fair.)
You say the four is too far away from you, so
you vote for the zero,
which ends up putting the seven into office,
a guy you CLAIM is the worst of the three.
To the logical mind, that's crazy.
Four was too much for you, so you voted to install
seven.
And you're happy with the results?
Democrats thrive on suckers like Bartcop,
just like Republicans thrive on their own herd
of suckers.
Oh, so now we start with the personal attacks?
I'm a naive sucker because I chose the four over
the seven?
I have math and logic on my side.
You have some wild-eyed, pistol waving fever
that made you put Bush in office.
Ralph Nader has fought for labor, consumers, and
the environment since the early sixties
and hasn't been bought and co opted like Clinton
and Gore and the Democrat Party.
Ralph Nader has never won an election of any kind.
He has no record.
He's never had to compromise to get anything
done, so his hands look clean to you.
By the way, how old are you?
He refused to accept soft money for his campaign,
thereby putting his money where his mouth is.
His platform makes sense.
It didn't make sense to the 97 percent who refused
to vote for him.
There's a recurring theme here at bartcop.com
If you feel so strongly about an issue or candidate,
and are willing to go against 97 percent
of all Americans, you ought to be able
to explain yourself.
He has the answers progressives are looking for,
not mealy-mouthed platitudes designed to keep
targeted constituencies in line. So, is this
simple enough for you, or was this just too much to read?
After all, Bartcop, simple problems require simple
solutions (I tried to use as many little words as possible).
D.M. Carter
When asked to explain your candidate's platform,
you insult the guy asking the question.
What do you or your candidate have without
the personal insults?
From: rlange@uplink.net
Subject: Bartcop.com is fantastic
You have one of the best and most creative sites
on the net,
even if I don't agree with a lot of your politics.
Keep up the great work, we need a thoughtful and
inspired "loyal opposition" in this country
that doesn't take itself too seriously, something
we haven't had for about 8 1/2 years.
And this from a Republican -- but not a frothing
dingdong right winger.
The impeachment vendetta was the worst thing
the Repubs ever did to this country -- so far.
Bartcomaddict Arnold
heh heh
Arnold, thanks for the note.
Write some short rebuttals, I'll publish 'em.
Murder in
Small Town X
by jonbastian@earthlink.net
Hi Christian & Bartcop. Hope that email problem
is fixed soon.
But anyway, dammit, thanks for getting me hooked
on this show.
At last, a pseudo reality TV survival show that
at least has a premise that makes sense.
Anyway, my theories on the killer so far. Whoever
is doing it is screwing with the whole town,
and obviously knows about nasty things the people
of Sunrise have done -- Pru's affair with Flint,
probably Thibodeaux's odd living quarters, the
whole business between DeBeck, Oscar and Leita.
So the killer is somebody with access to information
-- which could point to Leita Rose-Blodgett, town
gossip and postmistress. Of course the mitigating
factor there is the desecration of her dead husband's grave.
On the other hand, she conveniently lead the
investigators right to it after the funeral, didn't she?
Or... who else in a small town would know everything?
The Priest, of course, Reverend Crandall.
He's probably heard all their confessions, and
would also have all-hours access to the cemetery,
no questions asked, not to mention that nobody
would find it suspicious to see him wandering around town,
nor, in a place like this, would they refuse
him entry. Just a bland, innocuous background character who
has reason to do a little Wrath 'o God business
on his neighbors.
The real key to it is: which of these two would
have access to photo-developing equipment?
The post-office/drugstore could have that kind
of stuff. So could a small community church with its own
AV/publicity program. But tipping the scales
toward Crandall, in my mind, are two things:
1) The killer was welcome in the Flint's home
before doing the deed,
2) An old lady isn't going to be as intimidating
as a killer.
Finally, there's all that language from the first
episode in the killer's spiel, about making the victims
his (or her) own. That has the ring of religious
lunacy to it, doesn't it?
(Have the investigators do a background check
on Crandall, find out if he went to film school.)
So, as of episode two, that's my guess: 90% chance
it's Crandall, 10% chance it Leita. Besides,
if I was producing the show, I'd make the villain
the town pastor, just to fuck with middle-America's head.
Jon
Now, that's a review of a murder mystery show.
And yes, suspect the priest!
From: stevehenry@wans.net
Subject: Strawman Attempt
(I'm guessing he read "kiss my ass")
Now & then someone sends me a link to some
Freeper
gone wild on bartcop.com
Every time I get one of these, http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b6770b31f9d.htm
I send an e-mail similar to this:
Philo,
Would you care to have a friendly debate?
I can be real nice, and I don't ambush anybody.
I've been looking for a Freeper to post a regular column on my page
but I can't find anybody willing to take the job.
Similarly, I'd LOVE a chance to debate a Repub on their site,
but there are no Repub sites with a standing offer to debate all
comers.
Can you see the difference between left & right?
The left (at least BartCop) can withstand any verbal assault, but
the right
(Rush, Bush, Hannity) hide behind call screeners and spokesmen.
Prove me wrong, let's debate.
I have a place when only you and I can post live,
or we could do it at a place you suggest.
Or - is it easier to make false claims, then hide?
BartCop
bartcop.com
...but instead of answering the challenge, they choose to hide and claim
victory,
because they know their arguments can't stand up to simple questions.
From: utusn@flash.net
Subject: Unseemly 24/7
Somebody dies from heat exhaustion, so it is just
NATURAL for MSNBC & Faux
Propaganda Networks to have his teammates describing
their memorial services,
how they spoke of him in grief, and, finally,
weeping themselves in front of these blasted cameras.
Oh, then, let's cut away to the Levy driveway.
Shameless GHOULS!
Oh, but let's NOT have any pesky questions about
the CIA, Iran/Contra,
the 2000 Selection, the BUSH family business
activities, the amounts the
taxpayers have subsidized the BUSH family businesses
over the years, etc.
Why THAT would be unSEEMLY.
The press runs with whatever stories Karl Rove wants them to run.
Except for Helen Thomas - she wants to give Smirk the red-ass.
Was
Hanssen a Spy for the Right Wing, Too?
by Joe Conason
From: bloodrosey@hotmail.com
Subject: Bill Clinton in Harlem could Whip King Smirk's Butt
Hi Bartcop,
I love your site. Thanks so much for doing
it. I saw a link to mediawhores about Clinton in Harlem
and realized my local rag, Palo Alto Daily News
is much cooler about printing Clinton story's without
focusing on his genitals. Unfortunately,
they don't place their stories on-line, so you'll have to take
my word about the news they did print.
This is the part I love: During the ceremony,
there were protesters there with signs and jeers.
First off, Clinton addressed their main fear,
gentrification, by stating he wanted to "be a good neighbor".
He said that he thought the home values going
up would be good for the residents and that he didn't want
local businesses to leave. He also talked
about how he dreamed of playing the sax at the Apollo theatre
and hoped to get his chance someday.
Then, he read out one of the protester's signs
that said "What have you done for Harlem?"
and he addressed it, pointing out all he had
done for the economy, for blacks, for the poor and for welfare.
Very awesome!
While Smirk can't address a reporter's comments,
Mr. Clinton is addressing people who don't even like him.
Isn't he amazing? I'd like to see King
George talk to protesters.
Heck, I'd like to see the media even show the
protesters.
According to the article, people were chanting
for four more years of Clinton.
Thanks again for your awesome site.
Kimberly
Kimberly, good one.
Someone tried to stump the Big Dog & got throwed.
From: pipecover@mediaone.net
Subject: i'm so sad
...so the idea is to be popular.
Being right is being a loser, if it's unpopular???
Pipe, I don't know what language that is.
Thanks Bartcop for letting me know who you
are.
I was getting ready to send you $100 as soon
as the tax "rebate" came in.
It's Democrats.com
who'll be getting $200 instead.
Enjoy your popularity.
--bill n
Pipecover,
You'd be crazy to send money to a site you don't understand.
My guess is that you're hung up on the word "popular."
You said you were about to send this site some money, and if I'm not
mistaken,
the reason you were sending that money was "to
grow the hammer higher."
How is that different from "being more popular?"
Why do you think I used that analogy with the rock band?
The farther they got into their niche, the more unpopular they got.
They walked away from the people, and eventually had to get real jobs,
similar to Dukakis, Mondale and Gore.
Send your money to Democrats.com
and tell them half of it came from me.
Read the Previous Issue
It had everything.
Copyright © 2001,
bartcop.com
Thanks for the
fumble, Dude.
