"I get it: Hillary is a part of the past but
Ted Kennedy is not. Hillary is symtomatic of everything that is
wrong with Washington but Teddy is not. Washington is
broken but Teddy is not." -- Michael C,
Link
If Teddy had endorsed Hillary,
how many Chappaquiddick jokes would've been on the web this week?
Excerpt: Let's review the sad tale, starting with the
politics.
Whatever hopes people might have had that Mr.
Clinton would usher in
a new era of national unity were quickly dashed.
Within just a few months
the country was wracked by the bitter partisanship
Mr. Obama has decried.
This bitter partisanship wasn't the result of
anything the Clintons did.
Instead, from Day 1 they faced an all-out assault
from conservatives
determined to use any means at hand to discredit
a Democratic president.
For those who are reaching for their smelling
salts because Democratic
candidates are saying slightly critical things
about each other, it's worth
revisiting those years, simply to get a sense
of what dirty politics really looks like.
No accusation was considered too outlandish: a
group supported by Jerry Falwell
put out a film suggesting that the Clintons had
arranged for the murder of an associate,
and The Wall Street Journal's editorial page
repeatedly hinted that Bill Clinton might
have been in cahoots with a drug smuggler.
So what good did Mr. Clinton's message of inclusiveness
do him?
I agree with Krugman.
Some people think if their candidate says,
"There's no white America, there's no Black America, there's just the United States of America," then the Fascist bastards are going to start
playing fair?
If nothing else, Obamaniacs should thank Hillary for toughening Obama
up.
You'll find crow is best eaten in a single gulp.
I've had to eat my share of crow over the years,
so I know.
Seems to me the voters of South Carolina overwhelmingly
repudiated the Rovian politics of Team Clinton
in favor to
the politics of a "United" United States of America.
See ya on February 6th, Bart.
Walt Starr
Wait, you mean it's over?
Those 25 big states don't get to vote Tuesday?
And I'll bet you can't explain one "Rovian" thing they did.
That's one of those words the whore media is using every
10 minutes to discredit the best knife-fighter on our side.
Don't you hate it when the media picks our candidate?
Excerpt: If you read between the lines here, Obama's saying
that if he hadn't won South Carolina
it wouldn't have been a "shift" in racial politics.
Which means that a vote for him is a vote
against racism, right? Which means that
Obama's playing the racial politics game even as
he pretends like he's not.
If Obama wasn't playing racial politics, he'd
be answering questions about his race by
saying that South Carolinians had simply chosen
the best candidate, regardless of race.
But he didn't say that. He said that
by choosing him, South Carolinians absolved themselves or their racial sins of the past.
How ugly is this going to get?
They've made it racist to vote for Hillary?
I'm a little disappointed in the "Barack Pack"
photo you ran.
I admit that I enjoy such tactics against Repugs,
though some of the fake photos
of Condi Rice over the years have bothered me,
not because I don't detest her,
but because the joke depends on her being black.
Same thing here.
I'm not sure exactly what's meant by the photo,
but the inference is that he's
a token black, like Sammy Davis Jr. The
problem is that the joke or the slur
depends on Obama being black like Sammy Davis
was. As though they're
somehow connected, just because of color.
That's just juvenile, and sad.
I could laugh at something that poked fun at Obama
for any number
of legitimate faults, but skin color isn't one
of them.
I agree with your idea of a tough fight until
next Tuesday,
but this seemed a little disturbing.
Thanks for all your hard work.
Anna, IL
Is every Obama cartoon a racial slur?
Is every Obama joke a racial slur?
"He's come from a white family and a black
family, and he's married to a black woman, and they're COOL
people. They are really COOL.
They are Jack and Jackie Kennedy when you see them together. They are COOL
And they're great-looking, and they're COOL and they're young, and they're - everything
seems to be great....He may not win this thing because everybody in America is not going
to be in a room with him somewhere... But if you're in a room with Obama, you feel
the spirit. Moving." -- Tweety the Screamer, President
of the Obama is God Club, Link
Darn - it's too bad Hillary isn't COOL
like Obama.
Excerpt: He said Obama's bid was "a campaign about the
country we will become,
if we can rise above the old politics that parses
us into separate groups
and puts us at odds with one another."
Darn those race-baiting Clintons!
"From the beginning, he opposed the war in Iraq.
And let no one deny that truth,"
he said, a reference to Bill Clinton's statement
about Obama's early anti-war stance."
"With Barack Obama, we will turn the page on
the old politics of misrepresentation and distortion.
Darn those distortion-using Clintons. Remember, campaigns are honest and noble -
unless a Clinton is involved.
"With Barack Obama we will close the book on the
old politics of race against race,
Did you happen to catch Bill's statement comparing
Obama to Jesse Jackson after
the South Carolina primary? Anyone who has any
clue about the feelings ff African
Americans will realize that the comment was out
of line. It was like saying"
"Don't forget everyone, this guy is black..just
in case you had forgotten.. I am here to remind you.. he is black...African
American... oh yeah, ...did I mention that he is black?"
Immediately after the votes were tallied, the
very first thing Bill did was bring up
the issue of race. Not the voters, not the issues,
it was pure unadulterated race baiting
and I just can't forgive him for that. I really
in my heart believed that Bill was different
and to be honest, I was hurt that he, of all
people, would jump straight back to the
race issue without even stopping to take a breath.
(withheld)
I've never been African American but that sounds like crazy talk to
me.
He only brought up "race" if you're looking to accuse him of "bringing
up race."
When did it become racist to mention political history when talking
political history?
I saw the exact clip, but not the comments before and after.
If
some reporters ran up to Clinton and said, "Ha
ha, your wife couldn't even win Carolina, what do you have to say
about that, Mr. Politics?" and his reply was, "Jesse won Carolina TWICE
and he's not president,
so maybe winning Carolina isn't the great springboard you guys claim it
is."
How is that racial?
And who in Carolina doesn't know Jesse Jackson is black?
When Hillary failed to win Iowa, I wrote something like,
"That's OK, Reagan and Bill lost Iowa, too." Were those racial remarks?
Of course they weren't - that was just political history.
Why is Clinton not allowed to talk politics in a campaign?
What nobody is mentioning is the undeniable slap at Jackson.
"Don't you DARE compare Obama to Jesse,"
as tho Jesse was
another Willie Horton. How ashamed is the Black community of
Jesse Jackson?
Dangerous Sidebar: Without a doubt, Obama is getting votes from semi-bigots who say,
"Obama's one of the good ones - you don't
see him running to Louisiana to help The Jena Six, you don't see him commenting
on the Duke rape case. Obama stays out of all that race nonsense,
which means he's got my vote."
From the semi-bigot's point of view, is Obama "one
of the good ones?" Does Obama avoid taking positions on black issues to preserve his political
viability?
I know, I know, I'm a racist for asking the question.
Ordering CDs and DVDs?
Use this portaland they'll send
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from each dollar you spend.
Subject: It
is easy...
to respond to Bill Clinton and the 1990's if you
are Obama......
All Obama has to say is, "Yes, the 1990's were
good times. However, we will do the same thing without the acrimony
and the drama."
The acrimony and drama is sure to come back along
if Hillary is elected
and no one wants to see nothing get done when
the GOP goes crazy.
Obama can be Clinton without the sleaze factor......
Gerpie
You mean the Republicans are going to play fair,
and show Obama respect?
You mean like they played fair and showed Gore
respect?
You mean like they played fair and showed Kerry
respect?
Excerpt: This morning the Clinton campaign is licking
its wounds, wondering why the old venom failed to kill. The network commentariats'
consensus last night seemed to be that it would
now pull back from its attack-dog strategy,
having suffered a momentous backlash.
But I have my doubts. Like a cornered wolverine,
the Clintons are far more inclined,
it seems to me, to strike again from the
same old strategic foundation, though in new and
wondrous tactical ways. I'd put my money on a
desperate
bloodbath of inventive skulduggery. It's what they do -- because they learned
from Republicans all too well.or nearly
Isn't it terrible when people go all negative to assault another
candidate?
They also make this accusation:
The robo-wording was sickening:
"Hello. This is the Hillary Clinton for President
Campaign. Before you vote, you should know that John Edwards voted for
permanent trade relations with China ... [a] bill that cost thousands of jobs.
Like the ones in the textile mills he talks about so much down here. You should also know that
John Edwards made nearly a half a million dollars working for a Wall Street
investment fund, a fund that's been profiting on foreclosing on the homes of families; including
100 homes right here in Carolina. Edwards says he's one of us, but up on Wall
Street he was just another one of them. Can you trust John Edwards?"
Of course, they failed to tie that to the Clinton
campaign.
Why would they attack Edwards?
He got, what, 18% in Carolina?
Are the Clintons that stupid?
These days, you can accuse the Clintons of anything
and the whore networks will
echo-chamber that allegation into a fact.
We used to hate it when they did that.
"It is painful to see how someone of Bill Clinton's
stature so squandered his legacy in such a short period of
frenzied, ill-advised campaigning. It was Bill's loss ...that he stopped
believing in a town called Hope." -- Mark Karlin, at Buzzflash.com,
writing Bill's obituary, Link
My good friend Mark sure is a vigorous Obama supporter,
isn't he?
I hate to see him in so much pain - his sympathy for the Clintons
is ...touching.
"Dr King's dream began to be realised when
LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It took a
president to get it done." --
Hillary Clinton, condemned by the whore media for listing the facts, Link
What's racial about stating the facts?
"Hillary Clinton must not be permitted to
...play the race card. It is one of the low
points of presidential politics in modern times. It is genuinely
shocking. Honest commentators should make a big and continuing deal about it."
--Tony Blankley, fanning those race flames with both hands, Link
Why can't everyone see they'll do anything to make Obama
our nominee?
Have you EVER seen a Republican attack Obama?
Excerpt: Mrs Obama earned $51,200 for her work with Treehouse's
board last year, on top of
the $271,618 salary she was paid as a vice-president
of the University of Chicago Hospitals.
She also received 7,500 Treehouse stock options,
worth a further $72,375, as she did the
previous year, when she banked a $45,000 salary
from the company.
The apparent contradiction between Sen Obama's
political calculation to join the
Wal-Mart-bashing lobby, and his wife's profitable
role with a company that makes money
from Wal-Mart, is being closely scrutinised by
"opposition" research teams.
But if they point out that Obama's wife make
big bucks from Wal-Mart, that'll be just one more racial slur of
which the Clintons are guilty, right?
Is there anything that can stop the Clintons
from making this all about race?
"Obama has done everything he possibly could
to keep race out of this election. And the Clintons attracted national scorn
when they tried to bring it back in by attempting to minimize the role MLK played
in the civil rights movement." -- Dick Morris, who loves
Obama? Link
"Exit polls of Obama's victory in South Carolina
reflected disgust among both white and black voters with the Clintons
playing the race card." -- Bob Novak, who loves Obama? Link
Black America needs Dick Morris, Bob Novak, FOX News and Rush Limbaugh
to explain to them that the Clintons are "using
race to divide America?"
The wretched charges of racism MUST stay with
the Clintons, whether true or not,
because the offense of racism is determined not
by intent or volition of the alleged offender
but purely by judgment of the alleged victim
(or of a seemingly random bystander).
And then, just as with charges of anti-semitism,
no amount of explaining, providing context
for the words and/or apologizing for the miscommunication
will suffice to remove this tawdry
and quite indelible stain. The only way such
a potent charge can be removed (sometimes) is if
you can identify yourself as a member of the
allegedly victimized group.
But the Clintons are not African-American, though
in the past they may have seemed particularly e
mpathetic to that group of Americans. So it goes
in our country today, that well into a lifetime of
treating all members of our human race on a seemingly
equal basis, all it takes is one such claim of
'offense' to push this couple, our former President
and his U.S. Senator wife off that lofty pedestal!
(Remember Howard Dean's scream? )
The means justify the end...
Marianne
I'm surprise at how quickly Black America has turned on them.
Excerpt: John Kerry took aim at Bill Clinton Friday, telling
the National Journal
the former president does "not have a license
to abuse the truth."
Kerry, who endorsed Barack Obama's White House
bid, said Clinton's
criticisms of Obama have been "over the top,"
and suggested Bill is getting "frantic."
Targeting Clinton's recent spate of attacks on
Obama, Kerry said, "I think you had
an abuse of the truth, is what happened. I mean,
being an ex-president does not
give you license to abuse the truth, and I think
that over the last days it's been over the top.
"I think it's very unfortunate, but I think the
voters can see through that," Kerry added.
"When somebody's coming on strong and they are
growing, people get a little frantic,
and I think people have seen this sort of franticness
in the air, if you will."
"Franticness in the air, if you will?"
That's John Kerry, all right.
Clinton was busy sending millions of manufacturing
. jobs to china
while obama was waltzing with a slumlord.......
do the math you fool,
Dwick
Do the math?
I didn't even see any numbers.
But I do have a question:
What year did Wal-Mart become a company to be taken down?
Sure, the brainless answer will be "always,"
but how about a serious guess at a year?
As far as I know, Arkansas doesn't have many unions.
Was Wal Mart expected to ship union bosses into the state
so they could organize the workers to demand more money?
Did Wal Mart start their cutthroat tactics while she was still on the
board?
And why is Michelle Obama making BIG BUCKS with Wal-Mart today?
Excerpt: "I happened to catch a piece of the round-the-clock
primary campaign
coverage, and who did I see in the front row
at the recent CNN debate?
Rep. John Lewis shaking his head in agreement
when Hillary gave Obama
a real tongue-lashing. Surreal...
How did an iconic figure from the civil rights
era, a man who was beaten
upside his head by out-of-control police officers
in Selma, Ala., end up
carrying a white woman's water in a race against
a black man who
epitomizes everything civil rights activists
worked to gain?
Wow! is that what this is about?
John Lewis is a traitor now?
Given that the Clintons presided over a scandal-plagued
White House, seeing
Lewis co-signing her in-your-face attack on Obama's
character was mind-boggling.
Really, if Obama had done in the Illinois General
Assembly what Bill Clinton did
in the Oval Office, white folks would have chased
him out of office and barred the door."
So it's OK to attack the Clintons for being "sleaze,"
but if you ask questions about Obama's land dealings, you're a racist?
Somebody needs to step in and calm this riot down.
Some of us who are voting on March 4th want a
say as well.
Don't get ahead of yourself. It is mathmatically
impossible for a
candidate to have enough delegates to win by
February 5th.
Just sayin'.
PadMel
Pad, it's early and already the Clintons are guilty of being racist
dogs.
Who knows what they'll be guilty of this time tomorrow, or next week,
or next month?
By the end of the week, they might be suspects in the Limberg baby kidnapping.
Bart, I agree with your promotion of electric
cars to eliminate our dependence on oil.
However, you are completely wrong about the need
for battery exchange stations.
It doesn't work that way. You can get a
lot of information about the new generation
of electric cars and batteries from Tesla Motors.
http://www.teslamotors.com
As their site explains in the specification section,
the batteries will last 100,000 miles
and only take about 3.5 hours to charge, usually
at night when demand is lowest.
If you need a new battery you just go to the
dealer and get one exchanged every few years.
Also, I know I sent you the link to the full length
movie Who Killed the Electric Car? You should buy a copy - it is very entertaining
and is narrated by Martin Sheen.
This movies shows that electric cars are not some
far away future goal but were
in fact almost perfected 10 years ago and were
very popular in California as late
as 2003 before the Bush administration had a
hand in killing them.
Do you remember the General Motors EV1?
> Is there a Demo site that says it will support
the nominee?
I don't know if a radio network qualifies as a
"web site,"
but let it be known that I have, repeatedly,
stated on The H.O.R.N.
that I will, in fact, vote for the Democratic
nominee come November.
Speaking for The H.O.R.N., any Democratic nominee
deserves our votes and support come November.
Bob Kinkaid,
hear his radio show at http://headonradio.com/
Excerpt: Woods built an 11-shot lead Sunday until his
game and the fickle
weather turned cold on the back nine. A birdie
on the last hole
gave him a 1-under 71 and an eight-shot victory.
Eight shots?
Damn that's his most impressive victory yet.
Usually he wins by one or two...
We have an Amendment which forbids a third-term
President.
In your zeal to push Hillary, you have turned
yourself inside out.
When this is over, you'll have time to figure
out where you dropped your scruples.
John F
John, why not just admit you like Obama?
If you think he has a better chance to win, good for you.
I think the experienced candidate has a better chance, you don't.
Just let me say that whoever wins the nomination,
I'll be voting Democrat.
That said, I don't think we have a chance in
November.
I have the misfortune of dealing with a
number of people who get all their news
from whoever watches FOX and listens to Rosh
and BillO. They don't even
watch it themselves. They just listen to what
their buddies tell them and nod thier heads.
The only candidate who has any chance against
any Republican is John Edwards
for one simple reason....he's a white male. No
matter how many times these idiots a
re told that Obama is not a Muslim, they insist
he is. He's a Muslim secret agent who
is going to appoint all Muslims to his cabinet
and this time next year, we'll all be bowing
towards Mecca twice a day. Even if he's not a
Muslim, he's black.
As for Hillary, well, she's still Hillary. She
has that whiny voice and those fat legs and
Bill is her husband who she's not home cooking
for. The only Democrat they'd even
consider voting for has to be a white male. It's
that easy.
Now that the press has turned the Democratic primaries
into a race riot, even the
blacks are mad at the Clinton's so if Hillary
gets the nod, the blacks will stay home.
Edwards is the only guy who can win in November
and any Republican will beat
Obama or Clinton. Unfortunately, Edwards is just
about out of the race at this point.
I think we're in for another ugly four years,
probably eight. Enjoy yourself.
Your fighting a losing battle, my friend. I live
in Blue Jersey and even I know
it's a losing cause. I don't even think Hil-Bama
can win Jersey.
Rude Rich
Excerpt: Wead said Bush resisted religious overtures as
firmly as sexual ones. "He has absolutely
zero interest in anything theological - nothing,"
Wead said. "We spent hours talking about sex
...who on the campaign was doing what to whom
- but nothing about God. And I tried many, many times."
Wead also recalls the son's expressions of his
own political interest. The campaign had prepared
state-by-state analysis of the electorate. "When
he got the one on Texas, his eyes just bugged out,"
Wead remembered. He recalled that Bush said:
"This is just great! I can become governor of Texas
just with the evangelical vote."
The experience left Wead troubled about the sincerity
of Bush's beliefs.
"I'm almost certain that a lot of it was calculated,"
he says.
Hey Wead, thanks for bringing this up in the EIGHT
YEARS of this monster's presidency.
I don't think so Bartcop. Because if Hillary
wins the nomination,
a shitload of us are moving to Canada, New Zealand,
wherever
because Hillary will never be elected and that
means 4 years of Romney or McCain
FOUR MORE WARS! FOUR MORE WARS!
Mike the Lawyer
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