Tues-Wed, February 12-13, 2008
Vol 2115 - No
Big States?
Quote of
the Day
"The Eleventh Commandment: don't speak ill of a fellow Republican. What
if the Republican is hurting America? Isn't it the patriot who sides with
America before he sides with the Republicans?" -- Bill Maher,
In
Today's Tequila Treehouse...
Limbaugh
vs the GOP
Democrats
torn apart...
The Theory
of Hate
Obama Criticism
Clinton
Slipping
Democrat
Passion
It's Tailspin
Time?
Hate Springs
Eternal
Mischa's
sexy bath
Think if the Hillary people said
something like that about Obama...
"No matter who wins this nomination, the party
is so badly split that a sufficient reconciliation seems unlikely. There
was a time I pleaded with fanatic Obama supporters to stop saying they would never
vote for Hillary. I pointed out the important thing was for a Democrat to win
in November. Those pleas fell on deaf ears. The Obama crazies not only
threatened never to vote for Hillary, but they filled the internet with the most
gross, vicious, violent insults against her. Think for a second - there have been NO substantial
attacks against Obama while the Obamaniax and America's whore press
tore the Clintons apart. Since I couldn't convince them to think of
party unity, I decided to join them. Now I have sworn an oath that I will never
vote for Obama in November. If Hillary loses this nomination, I will stay
home on election day. I don't want to belong to a party that every four years
finds the most direct route to presidential defeat. It's the Obama supporters
who have reached a new low."
-- mskylark, Link
We have a real problem here and nobody wants to
look at it.
Where is Howard Dean?
Where is anybody who can stop this race war?
Excerpt: After years of watching Limbaugh and the Republican
Noise Machine launch countless,
hateful crusades against liberals and Democrats,
it's extraordinarily satisfying to watch
the Republican Party leadership discover what
it feels like when Limbaugh sets his
venomous, factually challenged sights on their
own front-runner.
But this is what Republicans created. They wanted
Limbaugh to be an attack dog and to
chew up and spit out his/the party's opponents.
They wanted him to label Democrats as
traitors ("What's good for Al Qaeda is good for
the Democratic Party in this country today"),
to label them abhorrent and mentally deranged.
They wanted Limbaugh to ignore any semblance
of decency when demonizing the other side. Indeed,
there has been virtually no offensive line
that Limbaugh has crossed that Republicans have
not dutifully justified or explained away.
That's true and that's how he got the name, "Lying
Nazi Whore."
"If Hillary wins the states she has won and
Obama wins the states he has won, do the math and tell me who is the more
viable candidate. Hillary - 205
Electoral votes (FL, NH, AR, NV, MI, NY, NJ, TN MA, OK, CA, AZ) Obama - 110
Electoral votes (IA, MO, GA, SC, ID, NM, AL, IL, AK, KS, UT, DE, ND, MN)" -- Larry Johnson,
Link
The whore press and talk radio and the cable Nazis and the Obamaniax
don't
care. Obama is their man and they don't want to hear about things
not adding up.
Randi Rhodes spent the last 30 minutes of Monday's show justifying
why it was perfectly fine for MSGOP's David Shuster to suggest
the
Clintons had "pimped out" their daughter Chelsea.
Randi had a whole list of reasons why that was perfectly OK.
"Pimping is when you fix up your car, like
on MTV!"
Really, Randi?
You want Obama to win that bad?
She also read a long hit-piece by one of those "mind readers"
who knew
exactly why the Clintons did their evil deeds, and she
read it with gobs of hate dripping off her tongue.
"You've got a friend with a pointy white hood
in Pennsylvania?"
-- Tony Norman, on Pa. Gov. Ed Rendell saying that conservative whites
in Pa.
are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate,Link
So, if you recognize that a race
problem still exists in America, you're a Klansman?
I don't know if ANY of this is true, but I think someone should ask a few questions and we deserve to get some answers before we turn the future of this country over to the new
guy...
You should especially read this if you think *I* have been sliming
Obama.
Instead of writing back, "Screw
you, Bart-Rove, and GFY and unsubscribe me," instead of sending that to me, ...why
not address the questions that are raised?
Are any of these charges true?
If they are, would you rather find out now or after the wedding?
"Ironically, McCain's bellicose aura could
allow us to achieve more of our objectives peacefully because other countries
would be more afraid to mess with him than with most other potential occupants of the
Oval Office - or the current one." -- McCain advisor Max Boot, saying it's good
that McCain is seen as crazier than Bush. Link
Excerpt: Obama's victories in Virginia and Washington
DC offered the strongest evidence yet
that nomination is slipping away from Hillary.
The scale of Obama's victories, as well as
signs that he is expanding his support into a
broader-based coalition, are problems for Clinton.
With last night's performances, Obama began for
the first time to bite into Clinton's support base.
That could siphon crucial support ahead of key
contests next month, her last stand.
Obama last night registered his strongest performance
so far among white voters - without
giving up his dominance among African-American
voters. He also, for the first time, began to
make huge inroads with the constituencies Clinton
could normally take for granted: white
women and working class households at the bottom
of the economic ladder.
Excerpt: I've been on the fence because both of them would
make a fine candidate.
I am with you 100% in your admiration and touting
of the Clinton campaign machine
-- it whacked the Repubs right upside the head
twice in a row; in fact, I supported
Hillary because of this very fact.
Excerpt: It's a long campaign, and the press pack has
already prepared Hillary's obit once,
when she was absolutely, positively going to
lose New Hampshire. But it's hard to deny
that the Clinton campaign is off balance, off
its game, while Obama seems to be surging.
The negative headlines could do some serious damage
to Hillary as she aims at Ohio and
Texas on March 4. It's a vicious cycle
in which bad publicity hurts fundraising and polling,
which in turn creates more bad publicity. The
Clintonites even had to deny that they're
pursuing a version of Rudy's waiting-for-Florida
strategy. Giuliani, they note, won no primaries.
If I was running Hillary's campaign, I'd have her take a break.
If she just hid behind closed doors and did and said nothing, maybe
the whore press
would take look at Obama's pros and cons and write some stories about
him.
As things are today, if Hillary says, "Good
morning," the press turns that into an
unfair attack against all blacks and working women, so why say anything?
Excerpt: Hillary and her advisers increasingly believe
that, after a series of losses, she has been
boxed into a must-win position in the Ohio and
Texas primaries on March 4, and she has
begun reassuring anxious donors and superdelegates
that the nomination is not slipping away
from her. Mrs. Clinton held a buck-up-the-troops
conference call on Monday with donors,
superdelegates and other supporters; several
said afterward that she had sounded tired and
a little down, but determined about Ohio and
Texas.
They also said that they had not been especially
soothed, and that they believed she might be
on a losing streak that could jeopardize her
competitiveness in those states. "She has to win
both Ohio and Texas comfortably, or she's out,"
said one Clinton superdelegate.
It is true that, at least here in Florida, those
nasty, mean ole Stalinists
have prevented oil companies from drilling.
Of course, those mean ole Stalinists down here
are GASP!!! Republicans.
A Republican governor, Jeb Bush, and a Republican
controled Florida Senate
have stopped this many times.
As far as the nuclear power plants go, I believe
the insurance industry has much
to say about it, and besides, the republicans
had enough years in power as the
majority on BOTH houses AND the White House to
change the laws concerning
the regulations for building nuclear power plants.
Why didnt they?
Sort of puts a big crimp in the old argument,
dont it?
John A
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Subject: reaching
over Hillary
Bart, you wrote:
> Some Obama fans say they like him because
he's willing to reach across the aisle. > But to do that, he'll have to reach over
Hillary - what sense does that make?
Thank you Bart.
The hypocrisy of Obama chastising Hillary for
working with the other side
is also not being reported. Another big surprise
by the media.
It's all part of what Paul Krugman calls "Clinton
Rules".
Chris Y.
Excerpt: I won't try for fake evenhandedness here: most
of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody.
I'm not the first to point out that the Obama
campaign seems dangerously close to becoming
a cult of personality. We've already had that
from the Bush administration - remember Operation
Flight Suit? We really don't want to go there again.
What's particularly saddening is the way many
Obama supporters seem happy with the application of
"Clinton rules" - which means the way some news
organization treat any action or statement by the
Clintons, no matter how innocuous, as proof of
evil intent.
Hmmm, some news organizations?
That would be FOX News, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, NYWhore
Times, WaHoPo, DailyKos,
Air America Radio, TIME, NEWSWEEK, Meet the Whore,
Face the Whore, This Whore,
consortiumnews, Huffingtonpost (I can't begin
to list them all) and most every "liberal" web site.
And he means that "mind-reading" I've been talking
about.
"I cannot support anybody with
the foreign policy he advocates - perpetual war. That is disturbing. It's
un-American, unconstitutional, immoral and not Republican." -- Ron Paul, sounding like he's going to vote for the
Democrat, Link
I refer of course to "How we get out of this mess..."
A Kossack would be too worried about the status
quo or their score or whatever the hell.
But I ask, why hasn't Hillary taken Obama out
already?
Citing "experience" is the roughest she's gotten
so far, right? (not counting aides)
I just keep thinking of McCain's "secret black
baby" and how he's still best buds with Bush.
Is the Democratic party simply unable to be competitive,
even in intramurals?
Hillary's wimpiness with Obama is making me think
maybe she's not that tough after all.
Wes
Wes, when Hillary said "I have more experience,"
the charge came back,
"Why does Hillary say blacks are too stupid
to be president?"
Every word from them is turned into a terrible,
personal racial attack against Obama.
You can turn on any political talk show - even
today - and within 15 minutes
someone will mention Bill's "shameful" remarks
about race in Carolina.
The thing is, nobody will quote him because
when you repeat what he said,
it doesn't sound racial so they simply
refer to it as racial and the press turns on
their echo machine and suddenly the Clintons
are the Supreme Dragons.
The press and the blindest of the Obamaniax will
have you believe that Bill Clinton,
the slickest black president ever, can't even
open his fool black mouth without uttering
some horrible racial slur that everyone
agrees is terribly offensive. Donna Brazile
just might up and quit the party next time Clinton
opens his racist mouth again.
But the minute Obama gets the nod, everyone is going to be SHOCKED when
the
whore media turns on Obama to elect McCain and saying "I told you
so" won't help.
Meanwhile, I've got the same problem.
How many times have I been accused of "sliming" Obama?
ANY mention of Obama that isn't followed by a genuflection is "shocking
racism."
Do people understand that the GOP slime machine
isn't going to play nice like the Clintons?
Why do people say goofy stuff like,
"I'm tired of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton?"
That has never happened, nobody has ever lived thru that.
We had three terms of Bush the Smarter that were bad,
then two terms under Clinton that were very good,
then two terms under Bush the Moron that were extra-horrible.
So how does that reflect badly on the Clintons?
To me, that sounds like, 12 years in prison, eight years out,
then eight more years of prison ...and I'm so tired of living
this way!
I live in a large house with 4 other people.
3 of us are for Hillary, and 2 of us are for
Obama.
We have two signs in our window, one for Obama
and one for Hillary.
We are trying to say that Hillary would make a
better president and Obama
a fantastic VP, although I still don't see that
he has the experience even for that job.
When they say that educated people are not for
Hillary, that is a load of crap.
The 3 of us who support Hillary have a Ph.D.,
B.A., and LL.M., respectively.
(In case you have never heard of an LL.M, it
is a masters of law degree,
higher than a regular law degree (J.D.).
I have seen and heard Obama people cutting Hillary
down, but I haven't seen it
the other way around. What gives? If I want to
be in a cult, I'll join the Evangelical
branch of the GOP. These Obama cultists need
to come back down to earth and
look at the substance of these two candidates.
And, if you are sexist and a democrat, Obama's
your man.
Obviously.
Thank God there are still two sane lefty websites
out there; yours Bart, and Hinessight.com.
Sheryl
Sheryl, about the education thing?
That's probably techinically true in that more kids are going to college
than their parents did and the kids see Obama's speeches as gospel.
Those of us who aren't newbies
have heard Obama's "We need change"
pitch every four years.
"Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP, wrote
a letter to Howard Dean to express "great concern at the prospect that million
of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely
discounted. The letter demands that those votes already cast be counted..." -- Bem Smith, Link
"If Obama loses because they count the MI and
FL delegates, I will no longer be a Democrat." -- newagepolitics, apparently backing warmonger McCain?
Link
"Obama has no problem dictating the rules for
Super Delegates but when it comes to Michigan and Florida he wants the rules
to remain exclusive. Super delegates always voted their conscience. But now Obama
is saying they should vote the way of their constituents. Obama is just another
Washington politician..." -- Anonymous, Link
"As sure as the sun comes up tomorrow, the
Clintons will steal this from Obama!" --KJS, Link
So, if Obama loses, it'll be because those "white devils" stole
it from him?
Is playing by the rules somehow proof that you're cheating?
Here's how I see it: If Obama wins, the Clintons WILL help
him take the White House.
If the Clintons win, Obama will scream "racial
politics" and refuse to help the Clintons.
Of course, that means Obama is endorsing McCain, but you're OK
with that, right?
Excerpt: Quick, which current presidential candidate has
promised to roll back all the executive privileges
Bush gave himself? Who's going to give us back
habeas corpus and return to the public all the
constitutional freedoms that were stolen by the
Patriot Act? That's right, none of them.
Whoever the next president is, I'm going to hate
their guts. Whoever they are, they're going to
build more prisons, start more wars, sell a shitload
of weapons and oil, and fuck up a lot of
poor people for their corporate globalist masters.
We get to vote on the puppet, not the puppeteers,
so here's how I look at the upcoming election
and where to squander my vote: do I want to spend
the next four years hating a black man, a white
woman, or a white man? It's the ludicrous theory
of hate practiced by all of us who rebel against
leadership of any kind.
I will back it up with a bet.
$200 says Obama wins the nomination.
Put up or shut up.
ha ha It doesn't work that way.
In Vegas, they don't take bets in the last
three minutes of the football game.
Where was your money and your guts at kickoff
time? Your refusal to bet on Obama until the very end
tells me all I need to know.
You didn't think he was electable, either.
I think she ran a crappy campaign, but I won't
argue with you if you want to
blame the media for beating Hillary. But
either way, it is what it is.
The deed is done. Obama has won.
So, you want me to "pull a Kerry" and surrender
before the votes are counted?
Did you forget which website you were writing to?
The only question left is whether Obama can beat
McCain.
Arguing about Hillary is officially a waste of
time. Yesterday's news.
Unless she wins Texas and Ohio.
Are you going to send me that $200 if she wins?
Sure, she might've been the best president in
history,
she might've been the best chance to win,
she might've had the best policies, and Obama
might be nothing but platitudes and dreams.
That's why I'm fighting for the experienced candidate.
It doesn't matter. It ain't gonna happen.
So change the subject and start talking about
something real.
Like how can Obama beat McCain.
brew
Excerpt: Donna Brazile has announced that if "superdelegates"
settle the contest, she'll abandon the party.
Brazile would abandon the party and go where - to the Fascist GOP?
Chris Bowers warns, "I will resign as local precinct
captain, resign my seat on the Pennsylvania
Democratic State Committee, immediately cease
all fundraising for all Democrats, refuse to
endorse the Democratic 'nominee' and otherwise
disengage from the Democratic Party."
...and vote for McCain?
Several things must be said. First, everybody
making such threats needs to calm down.
This isn't about you, your hurt feelings, or
your pure, unsullied idealism.
It's about the future of our country.
Excerpt: Rich's anti-Clinton invective was remarkably
harsh, as it often had been when he demonized Gore.
The Clintons had "ghettoized" Obama in
a succession of incidents, we were told. Meanwhile,
Hillary's pursuit of the Latino vote involved
"a creepy racial back story;" a Clinton pollster had
"pitted the two groups [Latinos and blacks]
against each other," Rich explained. (And Hillary had
"seconded the motion." This involved the
promulgation of "a bigoted lie" - a bigoted lie that
"branded Hispanics, a group as heterogeneous
as any other, as monolithic racists.")
How many severe and unforgiveable racial crimes can the Clintons commit
in one day?
Yes, that's pretty startling stuff. By now, the
invective was flying around - and the butcher was just
getting started. Yep! According to Rich, the
Clinton campaign has made an "attempt to drive white
voters away from Mr. Obama by playing the
race card." Not only that: "The question now is how
much more racial friction the Clintons
will gin up if its Hispanic support starts to erode in Texas."
As he closed, the butcher lovingly looked ahead
to the "race-tinged brawl" to come:
I don't even recognize this party anymore.
It's like we stepped into the Bizarro World,
where the Fascist bastards are still the
Fascist bastards, but the race-baiting KKKlintons
are more evil than the Bush bastards ever were
and they must be stopped at all costs,
even if that means 100 more years for the Republicans
to occupy Iraq.
Just listening to a piece on NPR re upcoming primary
in Wisconsin and how some
voters are still undecided even about which party
to vote for. The commentator said,
"Wisconsin is a romantic state. They like to
dream." Which is good, he continued, for Obama.
I realized that romantic is the word for all the
Obama cult followers who swoon and won't
listen to reason and accuse you of sliming Obama
if you ask the slightest question about his
lack of specifics. Which is just another way
of saying, Wisconsinites want a pony and so do
all the romantic Obamaniacs.
I'm in Virginia where the romantics yesterday
went for Obama in a big way,
and I'm starting to think we are so f****d.
Keep hammering,
Martha
Martha, we're not screwed for sure, but we're pulling our Pro Bowl quarterback
out of the game when we're behind by 5 points and there's just two
minutes left
You never know - the rookie could still win the game for us.
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Subject:
You are so right
Obama needs to be tempered. Aged and experienced.
He may not think so, but as a president now,
he'd be a disaster.
If he managed to get elected, he be a one term
president and we'd have the greedy bastards
back in office for another minimum 8 years, possibly
12. And if you think things are bad now,
they'd be even worse after another 8 to 12 years
of punishment.
All you have to do is listen to the difference
between Hillary and Barack.
She offers concrete, solid plans, he says we
have to change things, but doesn't put forward
a plan for change in anything - economics, infrastructure,
energy, health care, nothing.
Dee from NJ
Dee, why do you hate black people so much?
Subject: Obama supports McCain
Many Obama fans state that hey cannot support
Hillary because of her vote on the war.
Since Obama has become a senator, he has supported
all funds for the war and has only
paid lip service to pulling out of the war; plus
he has stated that if Hillary wins he and his wife
would have to take a hard look at her to see
if they would support her.
This tells me that if he doesn't win, he would
support the war by withholding his approval for
the only candidate left standing that is willing
to bring the troops home.
Deb in KC
That's a damn good point.
If Obama can't win, he'd rather the war continue?
Excerpt: "It's going to be an intense and turbulent year
for home sales," says Steve O'Connor,
the Mortgage Bankers Association's senior vice
president.
The most severe real estate recession in a generation
sent sales of existing homes
plunging 13% last year - the steepest annual
dive in 25 years - and the median
U.S. home price fell, probably for the first
year since the Great Depression,
the National Association of Realtors said Thursday.
Now think - what have you always read on bartcop.com?
A Republican's main job is to crash the economy
so the super-rich can swoop in.
Bush has been a disaster - that's pretty obvious
- but they say this is the biggest crash
in 25 years, and who was president 25 years ago?
Whore USAToday doesn't run their dead trees graphics online (Why?) but
they showed
how Reagan took office in 1981 and then came the BIG CRASH the very
next year.
It's the Republican's job to crash the economy.
Why don't the Democrats mention that during a campaign?
Bart, if you choose to insinuate some sort of
doomsday consequences
if Hillary loses you better lay out in bold print
WHY
DFG
I never said an Obama nomination would be a certain disaster.
I said he's new and untested and we don't know anything about him.
If he has a glass jaw, we're in for a third Bush term.
Plus, the whore press is holding back on his negative stories until
he wins the nomination.
Bottom Line: You're willing to trade the cow for magic beans
- I'm not.
RandiRhodes spent a good portion of her show Monday
justifying David Shuster;
("pimping means to 'deck out'") and trashing
Chelsea and Sen Clinton.
I could only imagine what you would've said to
her, if you'd have heard this.
Randi has officially lost both her mind and a
listener.
-- CD
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